Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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marcush.
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They have gone public with their statement of leaving the car as it is having analysed the performance is to be found just in tyre understanding ...only to start start moving aero balance to the rear from then on .. removing total df ...but not rocketing straight line speed ...?
I think their rear downforce is quite draggy compared to others .And as they have not found a ways to gain more at the rear without sacrificing even more drag counts they started to shed front df...
Is this a DDRS? maybe ...as the system seems to have only one setting that is workable...

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clipsy1H
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i was so busy in last month! Can anyone tell me what improvements brings Mercedes for SPA?

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Joie de vivre
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they'll run with no FW ..

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Morteza
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Guys I have a question. How exactly has longer wheelbase actually helped with W03? The car still has the problems W02 had last year.
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marcush.
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A very good point .What is driving the performance? Wheelbase ? I very much doubt this .The team is notorious for committing to standalone features on their cars which make it easy to pinpoint as possible causes for underachievement..as
always it creates a situation were it´s all too easy to stop short of finding the real answer to the open questions...this maybe is much more a team thing than a characteristic solely to find on w03.

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The Mercedes is a very good car, especially above 200kph, unfortunately there aren't many turns in F1 that are above that speed. In Spa, there is only Eau Rouge, Pouhon and Blanchimont. The turns where the downforce is inconsistent are in the 140-190kph range, precisely the speed where most F1 turns occur. Below that the Merc's mechanical grip is as good as anyone else's.
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marcush.
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godlameroso wrote:The Mercedes is a very good car, especially above 200kph, unfortunately there aren't many turns in F1 that are above that speed. In Spa, there is only Eau Rouge, Pouhon and Blanchimont. The turns where the downforce is inconsistent are in the 140-190kph range, precisely the speed where most F1 turns occur. Below that the Merc's mechanical grip is as good as anyone else's.
? Silverstone is high speed corners galore..but W03 did not perform at all ....the twop tracks they excelled were Monaco and Sepang ..right?

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FoxHound
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Anyone seen this spec exhaust?
It was doing the rounds at an exhibition yesterday in Holland.

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A return to the upright elements on the front wing?
JET set

wjpbill
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I did notice the exhaust in the twitter pics that Mercedes released.

Been back through images and I can't see it anywhere before - anyone else?

elf341
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That is the exhaust they tested at the young driver's test in abu dhabi last year.

It looks like a W02 with an early-2012 W03 front wing on.

wjpbill
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Well done, it's been bugging me and I couldnt' work out why!

aral
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wjpbill wrote:Well done, it's been bugging me and I couldnt' work out why!
The car is at least two years old (it has to be, for demo purposes). It has just been re-clothed to bear some resemblance to the 03.

Huntresa
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Its just bits and bobs from diff cars, same with RBs show car, has weird cooling outlets and stuff, just rly basic stuff so it works everywhere.

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turbof1
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If it is a showcar they are better off using a normal nose. Why in the hell do you want people to recognize your car by a plattypus nose for gods sake? And not just any nose of that type, but a very ugly one in the ughly categorie, second only to ferrari.
#AeroFrodo

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turbof1 wrote:If it is a showcar they are better off using a normal nose. Why in the hell do you want people to recognize your car by a plattypus nose for gods sake? And not just any nose of that type, but a very ugly one in the ughly categorie, second only to ferrari.

Cause they have destroyed the old noses and only had a new one?