Ferrari F2012

[amouzouris]

also with the cascades gone...the can run the fw at a higher AoA and deflect more air away from the front tires to reduce drag

[jaba.hut]

I have insider info that long missing Crucial Xtreme will be back here tomorrow .

[RandiAndika]

feel pessimistic for this weekend..... why they removed the cascacades? to reducing downforce? sorry begginer

Welcome to the wonderful world of F1Technical blog, and as about your comment i dont think that there are many causes to be pessimistic. caz Spa is alomost like canadian gp where low downforce and low drag reign. Also this is a track which is full of high speed corners which is a strong point favoring F2012 as they are repeatedly saying that they are strong in high speed track, and the track temperature and weather both are in favor of team like Redbull, McLaren and Ferrari. As u know that Lotus tend to be quick in warm weather. And weather prediction is mixed, in mixed condition F2012 in the hand of Alonso might recreate the magic that we are witnessing throughout the season .............

Thankyou. Yeah i really hope to see many overtakes cause spa is my favorite track! But im worry of lotus DDRS:| hope it not affect too much. Cant wait for sunday!!

[RandiAndika]

So they not reducing downforce but reducing drag? OK thanks amouzouris & cuky!!!

[stefan_]

[hardingfv32]

why they removed the cascacades? to reducing downforce?

I would say more about vortex management. Can all the cascades possibly make for the most efficient FW... WHEN the wing is viewed in isolation.

Brian

[Just_a_fan]

The point is, Brian, that you can't view the front wing in isolation. It affects the flow over the entire car so it not only generates its own downforce but conditions/directs the flow that later aero parts will use.

The cascades will be powerful flow conditioners and might actually be helping the car generate rear grip rather than front grip (although no doubt they do that too).

[Isak]

The front wing effects the rest of the car far less now then pre 2009, today its more about managing the tyre induced drag then managing flow over the rest of the car. I wont go into why the cascades are gone since i have no data to back up those thoughts, but i suspect its just a balance thing and that the cascades have the worst drag/df ratio of the front wibg elements.

[alogoc]

rake comparison

[amouzouris]

any news on the moved upper wishbone pickup points?

[stefan_]

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Ferrari sideposts look very bulky to me, i don't understand why they didn't go to low sideposts like Sauber, if someone can explain me why it's the benefit of Ferrari sideposts over the Sauber one for example.

It's the first thing that surprise me on the F2012, not the nose but the high sidepost.

[swarren7]

It appears that the Ferrari is running more rear wing then either the Red Bull or McLaren. The Red Bull looks to be running the least amount.

[hardingfv32]

The point is, Brian, that you can't view the front wing in isolation

Of coarse the FW can be viewed in isolation, which is an integral part of my statement: 'Can all the cascades possibly make for the most efficient FW...'

Taking a whole car view; in this case one could assume that Ferrari is targeting for more front down-force at the expense of the rest of the car's down-force.

Brian

[wesley123]

So they create more df on a lower df track by removing parts that generate df itself?