Dr Z: *gritting teeth* Norby...why is it every race I see Mercedes engines beating Mercedes cars WITH Mercedes engines?xpensive wrote:I can see DiResta on the podium tomorrow.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if that last part would turn truer than anyone could imagine next year?SeijaKessen wrote: ...
Norby: See Dr. Z! Who better than Ron to tell us the value of the engines.
Oh now, Ross would never allow that to happen.bhallg2k wrote:Ideally, he'd shutter the Brackley-based team as it's proven itself to be a veritable cave where intelligence apparently goes to die. At the very least, he'd relieve of duty those who've failed to learn from both the team's history and each other. Barring those outcomes, he might not stick around for too long, because the team appears to have trouble recognizing a single solution for anything. I can imagine him clutching his chest and crying to the heavens, Redd Foxx-style, "Ya hear that, Socrates? I'm comin' to join ya." (That last bit might just be because I'm weird, though.)
Sound about right?
what proof you need? why do you think he said "i didn't take any decision?" If you belive that means you are naive. He didn't want to put pressure on Mercedes ! they need time to choose next driver but yes keep lie yourselfzyphro wrote:Do you have proof of this? If not, stop reporting it as if it is a fact.clipsy1H wrote: Michael will retire at end of this season and nobody can change his decision.
Sorry but this is bullshit. If MIchael is going to retire this season, why is he waiting to say anything new until october? for me, and for the majority, the reason is clear, he wants to see if the team is capable of building a competitive car for the rest of the season, to finish this season with a fast car is the first, and most important step, to have race winner car in 2013.clipsy1H wrote:there are a lot fans who will not accept reality .... Michael will retire at end of this season and nobody can change his decision.
All people blame Eddie but they don't want to face reality ... time in F1 for Michael its over. all teams try to find a driver for 2014 and Micheal can't stand in circuit for another 2 years.
he had to retire last year because he should know this car can't fight for championship but he preferred to continue because he wanted to win at least one race cuz he didn't want to remain a black spot in his career
that's so funny! He already has three years with the team, so you think he need a couple of days to have a proof? he know by now w04 will be more competitive than w03. is normal to travel in France because he wants to know if this car can win a race until he leaveVasconia wrote:Sorry but this is bullshit. If MIchael is going to retire this season, why is he waiting to say anything new until october? for me, and for the majority, the reason is clear, he wants to see if the team is capable of building a competitive car for the rest of the season, to finish this season with a fast car is the first, and most important step, to have race winner car in 2013.clipsy1H wrote:there are a lot fans who will not accept reality .... Michael will retire at end of this season and nobody can change his decision.
All people blame Eddie but they don't want to face reality ... time in F1 for Michael its over. all teams try to find a driver for 2014 and Micheal can't stand in circuit for another 2 years.
he had to retire last year because he should know this car can't fight for championship but he preferred to continue because he wanted to win at least one race cuz he didn't want to remain a black spot in his career
And a guy who seriously thinks to retire dont travel to France in order to see how the updates of the car work. I havent see any other driver doing this, it is Michaels traditional commitment as its best.
I think you should be satisfied, that such a class driver wants to join a team that didn't achieve anything after Brawn GP.diego1960 wrote:We as fans for one don't deserve this. Just imagine his constant bitching and moaning if Mercedes fails to deliver a winning car which is the most probable scenario. Or the whole parade of "stars" through the garage every weekend, or Nicole Sch-whatever-her-name-is-ger smiling at the camera without even understanding what a racing car is, let alone terminology like DRS or "shark fin", or the stupid tweets that eventually will come once Lewis realizes that his mechanics are clowns flown in from a circus. Then the dad, don't forget the dad and the interviews etc. Jesus, now I'm the one bitching...
+1 His actions so far indicate that retirement is the last thing on his mind. If the updates work, there's no chance that he will retire, not when he is in the form that he is in. Indeed, if a car is fast towards the end of the season, it usually is fast at the beginning of the next season.Vasconia wrote:Sorry but this is bullshit. If MIchael is going to retire this season, why is he waiting to say anything new until october? for me, and for the majority, the reason is clear, he wants to see if the team is capable of building a competitive car for the rest of the season, to finish this season with a fast car is the first, and most important step, to have race winner car in 2013.clipsy1H wrote:there are a lot fans who will not accept reality .... Michael will retire at end of this season and nobody can change his decision.
All people blame Eddie but they don't want to face reality ... time in F1 for Michael its over. all teams try to find a driver for 2014 and Micheal can't stand in circuit for another 2 years.
he had to retire last year because he should know this car can't fight for championship but he preferred to continue because he wanted to win at least one race cuz he didn't want to remain a black spot in his career
And a guy who seriously thinks to retire dont travel to France in order to see how the updates of the car work. I havent see any other driver doing this, it is Michaels traditional commitment as its best.
Your reasoning amazes me. Lets leave it at that.clipsy1H wrote: that's so funny! He already has three years with the team, so you think he need a couple of days to have a proof?he know by now w04 will be more competitive than w03. is normal to travel in France because he wants to know if this car can win a race until he leave
I also believe in Michael but he want to retire because know can't win another title even if he has a winning car!
Wondering what world you live in and what races you watch, if you watch races at all.dave34m wrote:MS cannot mix with the top anymore but he wants really badly to feel the glory one more time so he can retire with all the credit he is due. Its time for him to go and he knows it that makes all the better for me. I hope he can at least achieve another podium but I dont think he can win a race, its not impossible but very unlikely. It would be like Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters. Oh what a great day that was.
exactly but here a lot of people don't accept the truth... but also i belive he can win 1 race maybe in Japan.dave34m wrote:MS cannot mix with the top anymore but he wants really badly to feel the glory one more time so he can retire with all the credit he is due. Its time for him to go and he knows it that makes all the better for me. I hope he can at least achieve another podium but I dont think he can win a race, its not impossible but very unlikely. It would be like Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters. Oh what a great day that was.
I really think you should watch the races more carefully. This year, at age 43 he has outqualified and outraced Rosberg 6/7 times that he finished the race. In the only 2 GP's that Merc was a winning car, he had a 3rd place in Q which turned 2nd because of a penalty in China, and was comfortably second in the race, and a pole in Monaco. I mean what more should he do? In the other races the W03 was the usual dog we all learned to love (or not) but he still put in some nice drives. He is in F1 on merit and could have easily won in a McLaren, this is the fact.dave34m wrote:MS cannot mix with the top anymore but he wants really badly to feel the glory one more time so he can retire with all the credit he is due. Its time for him to go and he knows it that makes all the better for me. I hope he can at least achieve another podium but I dont think he can win a race, its not impossible but very unlikely. It would be like Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters. Oh what a great day that was.
Lol, he would've won in Monaco without the penalty - give him a reliable and competitive car and he'll deliver the goods. He's already shown this already this season: have you been watching at all? Seems not.dave34m wrote:MS cannot mix with the top anymore but he wants really badly to feel the glory one more time so he can retire with all the credit he is due. Its time for him to go and he knows it that makes all the better for me. I hope he can at least achieve another podium but I dont think he can win a race, its not impossible but very unlikely. It would be like Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters. Oh what a great day that was.