Sauber 2012

[Joie de vivre]

inspecting every single detail

[clipsy1H]

how gonna look Sauber next year with this team Schumi and Massa old ferrari line-up fighting with new ferrari line-up (Alonso - Hulk)

[Raptor22]

SChumi to buy them and run VW /Audi/Seat/Skoda/Porsche/Lamborghini/Bugatti/Bentley/Suzuki (By 2014) engines?

Heck VW could supply the entire grid with engines and everyone would have marketing freedom

so add to this stab in the dark, Schumi to convince Rory Byrne to come back one last time and bring some South African talent with him

[Imido_30]

If MSC is signing Sauber next year, this team will shoot to the stars! I'm Schumi fan and I would hope he will accept a drive next year. Where ever he goes, I'm a fan!

[Richard]

TI´m pretty sure Ms Kaltenborn is similar to Peter Sauber in this matter -supplying the environment to enable the specialists to perform and do the do.

Indeed - Non-technical people are often useful to unblock organisational problems so that the technical people have the environment to thrive. Problems arise when technical people think they know how to run an organisation, and non-technical people think they can make technical decisions.

[marcush.]

TI´m pretty sure Ms Kaltenborn is similar to Peter Sauber in this matter -supplying the environment to enable the specialists to perform and do the do.

Indeed - Non-technical people are often useful to unblock organisational problems so that the technical people have the environment to thrive. Problems arise when technical people think they know how to run an organisation, and non-technical people think they can make technical decisions.

reminds of MGP?

Much more intrguing must be the prospect of having Schumacher as a lever when it comes to negotiating engine deals.Daimler has a vital interest to keep Schumacher in their bigger circle and offering Sauber an engine deal would in fact close a circle there as well.
Of course to the horror of Fry and Brawn ....imagine Not only Mclaren but also Sauber (andnot to forget FI) spitting into their rosegarden ...but this time Daimler is to decide on supply or not ..a very convenient ways to add more Pressure to the kettle...
On the other hand Schuamcher with Ferrari power would be a nice sting suiting Montezemolo -so it all could work out fine
for Peter Sauber and Ms Kaltenborn .
Schumachers desire to go on is limited methinks -so he´d do the 2013 season and use the 2014 after developing the new contender towards raceworthiness as a farewelltour only competing in his beloved races offering scope to promote new talent.....
Still i see the VW Audi Porsche signs on the wall as well - Audi knows a fair bit about Saubers Windtunnel capabilities due to developing their own lemans machinery in their tunnel...coincidence? Sauber may be in for interesting months or years .

zetsche already building bridges to retain Schumacher somehow closely to Daimler ...hints towards Schumacher having support in terms of powertrain by DAI?

[skgoa]

SChumi to buy them and run VW /Audi/Seat/Skoda/Porsche/Lamborghini/Bugatti/Bentley/Suzuki (By 2014) engines?

Heck VW could supply the entire grid with engines and everyone would have marketing freedom

"Vodafone McLaren Volkswagen Nutzfahrzeuge"

fake edit: Bentley? They aren't a VW marque.

[Raptor22]

SChumi to buy them and run VW /Audi/Seat/Skoda/Porsche/Lamborghini/Bugatti/Bentley/Suzuki (By 2014) engines?

Heck VW could supply the entire grid with engines and everyone would have marketing freedom

"Vodafone McLaren Volkswagen Nutzfahrzeuge"

fake edit: Bentley? They aren't a VW marque.

Yes they are.

research my friend in F1, research...

VAG brands:

Volkswagen
Audi
Seat
Skoda
Lamborghini
Bentley
Porsche
Bugatti

Scania
VW COmmercial vehicles

19.9% Non controlling shareholding in Suzuki, to be increased to 100% by 2014.

Thats 11 brands, 9 off which they could plug into F1

[banibhusan]

19.9% Non controlling shareholding in Suzuki, to be increased to 100% by 2014.

I thought that JV failed and Suzuki is now legally fighting to buy back the 20% shares on market price, i.e. around $2.5 billion.

[Raptor22]

that deal is not concluded yet. Suzuki wants it.s 19.9% back at the current market price but VW has not agreed to the deal yet. Their intent is still full ownership but they may back down in leui of the Eurozone problems. Since they spent $2.1Billion on acquiring the shares, they still come out at a profit but they really want the marketshare in the small car markets like India for example

[Paul]

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Thats 11 brands, 9 off which they could plug into F1

With the way current F1 cars look in frontal view, Scania and VW Commercial vehicles seem more appropriate.

[marcush.]

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Thats 11 brands, 9 off which they could plug into F1

With the way current F1 cars look in frontal view, Scania and VW Commercial vehicles seem more appropriate.

at least some of the new aeroappendages look as if they were stolen or borrowed directly from a truck...

[Raptor22]

well we've had "Snow Ploughs", "Monkey seats" and "chisel noses"....

So maybe Lamborghini, Scania and VW Commercial Vehicles is the way forward.

JUst waiting for the cow catcher driver head protection system....

[marcush.]

I find it very amusing that Sauber don´t even have their famous "Albert" supercomputer anymore-peter sauber just shrugging off the mentioning of it with the words -time is going on that quickly in this world -we now outsource the calculating power ...

[banibhusan]

I guess that was when it was BMW Sauber, no?