HRT F112 Cosworth

[beelsebob]

The radiator cover looks like a cooling pad – it keeps the radiator cool, and stops the mechanics burning themselves while the engine is on life support.

[Scootin159]

The louvers on the rear wing are probably still 98% effective as-is. The bigger question to me is why is the rear hub so thick? Looks like they just took a cylinder and drilled a hole through it - no careful machining away of the extra grams of aluminum. My untrained eye makes me think they could probably reduce the weight of that rotating and unsprung component by half with a simple FEA.

Also what's with the Dzus fastener in the top corner of the end plate?

The build quality and details of the HRT car seem to be generally "sufficient", but are certainly subpar compared to the teams ahead of them. I'm sure those details aren't the only thing keeping them from being at the front of the pack, but seems they're giving up a few tenths here and there in just the assembly of the car. Have to wonder where else that attitude of 98% being "good enough" is holding them back.

[cbbcisace]

The louvers on the rear wing are probably still 98% effective as-is. The bigger question to me is why is the rear hub so thick? Looks like they just took a cylinder and drilled a hole through it - no careful machining away of the extra grams of aluminum. My untrained eye makes me think they could probably reduce the weight of that rotating and unsprung component by half with a simple FEA.

Also what's with the Dzus fastener in the top corner of the end plate?

The build quality and details of the HRT car seem to be generally "sufficient", but are certainly subpar compared to the teams ahead of them. I'm sure those details aren't the only thing keeping them from being at the front of the pack, but seems they're giving up a few tenths here and there in just the assembly of the car. Have to wonder where else that attitude of 98% being "good enough" is holding them back.

They have used in fairness a new to F1 contractor in the Holzer Gruppe, the F111 was with Carbotech who was working with STR, me wonders will HRT be using Carbotech for the F113?

[marcush.]

what you consider to be the hub is in fact the car stand .It mounts to the hub giving the mechanics optimum access from all sides to the car ..useful for mounting the floor...

[ESPImperium]

The louvers on the rear wing are probably still 98% effective as-is. The bigger question to me is why is the rear hub so thick? Looks like they just took a cylinder and drilled a hole through it - no careful machining away of the extra grams of aluminum. My untrained eye makes me think they could probably reduce the weight of that rotating and unsprung component by half with a simple FEA.

Also what's with the Dzus fastener in the top corner of the end plate?

The build quality and details of the HRT car seem to be generally "sufficient", but are certainly subpar compared to the teams ahead of them. I'm sure those details aren't the only thing keeping them from being at the front of the pack, but seems they're giving up a few tenths here and there in just the assembly of the car. Have to wonder where else that attitude of 98% being "good enough" is holding them back.

They have used in fairness a new to F1 contractor in the Holzer Gruppe, the F111 was with Carbotech who was working with STR, me wonders will HRT be using Carbotech for the F113? :P

Those end plates came in at Barcelona, they are a €40,000 each end plates, the little thing at the top of them is a DRS adjustability thing to adjust the speed of the realease of the drag, and re attachment of the air flow. This is helpful in set up terms.

The assembly of the F112 to the F111 and F110 is a few tenths off what they would like yes, but is sufficient for this year. The F113 wll not be built by Holzer as the team are going bacl to Carbotech. As i understand there is a 50 strong design team at Majica at the moment, and they have been in place for the past 2-3 months desigining the F113. There is a good base of guys there as they are all ex Toyota, BMW Sauber and a couple of guys from other teams as well that have moved to sunnier climes.

They also had the F113s final tub design submitted for the last Thursday in September, whitch is in good time for the smaller teams, as they have to get their tubs manufactured by external manufacturers. This should mean that the team will have a car at test 1 of the pre season as it usually takes 12 weeks to build chassis 01 then 2 weeks less for every one after that. Then that have to go to paint whitch is usually 10-14 days per chassis and after that a futher 14 to 21 days for fitting out before initiual firing up of the engine. So sixteen to seventeen weeks out, the teams are already looking at 2013 about 80% of the time.

There are 5 teams that have to give that extra month in order for the external manufacturer enough time. Those teams are Force India, Caterham & Marussia (EPM Technology) and HRT & Toro Rosso (Carbotech) the rest are all in house. However Carerham and Toro Rosso will have in house facilitys next year as STR will have their new composities wing opened and Caterham are doing in house at Leafeald. This will give them a little more time with the chassis in the design stage pre building.

HRT are clearly showing that they are looking at 2014 to 2015 to make the impact they could have had this year if they had the investment in a decent factory and contempoary management structure a year earlier, however Kolles did a good job and you cant fault him for that job. HRT will expand and gain the know how, as they are trying to develop a cluster of knowlege outside the traditional Modena and Oxfordshire zones, Toyota did it in about 5-7 years to get a propper structure in place in Cologne by throwing money at it, it took Sauber about 5 to 7 years to make a dent, it took a decade to make a impact for him. Thats the comparison i think we should be looking at in terms of team development for HRT.

[cbbcisace]

Luis Perez Sala mentioned to Motorsport Total that by April/May 2013 will have everyone including Aerodynamics into Caja Magica.

[Petroltorque]

HRT will not be around in 2014 unless they get a cost capped agreement on engines. The Manufacturers and Ecclestone are unlikely to provide this. Nor do I see HRT establishing a technology hub around Madrid. It's obvious they are lacking investment and the financial situation in Spain is dire.
As for their 2013 car, without investment it will be another struggle. At least they're unlikely to have a chassis that's as bad as the F112. Holzer produced a car that was worse than the unfinished Dallara F110.

[Coefficient]

The 'louvres' in the rear wing, looks like they just sent someone down to the local DIY shop for one of these:

Little confused by the radiator...they have covered it and put the car number on it...why?

WOW! When did Ventaxia start supplying end plate louvres?

I think the radiator just has a board over it so mechanics can rest their tools on it without them damaging anything. By tools I mean spanners and the like!

[PlatinumZealot]

Who designed the end-plates Bob Vila?

[marcush.]

do the HRT mechanics not even have cabinets to store their tools ?
It´s certainly not intended for tool storage ,but avoiding damage by dropped items!
but on a more serious note -it´s amazing what drivers can find in their cars during qualyfying-I rmemeber kubica finding a cell phone in his cockpit on the outlap ....

[Coefficient]

do the HRT mechanics not even have cabinets to store their tools ?
It´s certainly not intended for tool storage ,but avoiding damage by dropped items!
but on a more serious note -it´s amazing what drivers can find in their cars during qualyfying-I rmemeber kubica finding a cell phone in his cockpit on the outlap ....

Yeah, I seem to remember Coulthard finding a spanner in his cockpit on the grid at Montreal and chucking it into the grass as the grid set off on the formation lap.

[Coefficient]

HRT will not be around in 2014 unless they get a cost capped agreement on engines. The Manufacturers and Ecclestone are unlikely to provide this. Nor do I see HRT establishing a technology hub around Madrid. It's obvious they are lacking investment and the financial situation in Spain is dire.
As for their 2013 car, without investment it will be another struggle. At least they're unlikely to have a chassis that's as bad as the F112. Holzer produced a car that was worse than the unfinished Dallara F110.

I think we'll see engine equivalency for a few years just as we saw during the switch from V10s to V8s.

[Petroltorque]

Equivalency rules don't work. They will always favour the new engine, otherwise there is no incentive for manufacturers to design to the new formula.

[Coefficient]

Equivalency rules don't work. They will always favour the new engine, otherwise there is no incentive for manufacturers to design to the new formula.

I agree completely, still think it will happen though.

[imightbewrong]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi25McEJqM0[/youtube]

Another nice video from HRT explaining the new floor (for those among us who understands spanish).