Sebastian Vettel has won the Japanese GP after leading it from start to finish. With the DNF of Fernando Alonso, this also means that he was able to close the gap to Alonso to a mere 4 points in the championship standings. The remaining Ferrari of Felipe Massa finished in second place while home here Kamui Kobayashi joined the podium in third place.
raymondu999 wrote:Alonso would probably tell a lot of fans to read into it though - lately (save for Singapore and Monza) he seems to have gone into a routine of getting the fans to downplay their expectations of him, which incidentally makes it look like a bad car if he does bad, but makes him look like a god when he gets the result. It's probably closer to 3rd/4th quickest than quickest, but he seems to be saying it's VERY slow of late
Well, if the car is 3rd/4th quickest that would translate to a best theoretical possible result of 5th-8th place, which is nowhere near good enough for keeping the title hopes up, isn't it?
I'm not disputing that. It just seems to me that there are times when he says the car is slower than Lotus/Sauber/Williams too.
WhiteBlue wrote:New asphalt usually is not as grippy as old. Volatile components come to the top and need to evaporate. Older surfaces are usually less smooth. This would support Surer's story.
It's not new though. It's new to F1. The asphalt was laid last year, and it's been raced on.
It is much newer than the old surface they had last year and therefore it is less grippy. Can we simply agree to that without having more debate about it?
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best ..............................organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)
WhiteBlue wrote:New asphalt usually is not as grippy as old. Volatile components come to the top and need to evaporate. Older surfaces are usually less smooth. This would support Surer's story.
It's not new though. It's new to F1. The asphalt was laid last year, and it's been raced on.
It is much newer than the old surface they had last year and therefore it is less grippy. Can we simply agree to that without having more debate about it?
I don't think so since the asphalt was laid last year the curing process of the asphalt is completed so theoretically it suppose to provide the same grip as the old surface
raymondu999 wrote:
I'm not disputing that. It just seems to me that there are times when he says the car is slower than Lotus/Sauber/Williams too.
But there are times when the car is indeed slower than those teams' you mention! Unless you feel Grosjean, Perez and Maldonado are faster drivers than Alonso?
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. H.P.Lovecraft
NonNewtonic wrote:I don't think so since the asphalt was laid last year the curing process of the asphalt is completed so theoretically it suppose to provide the same grip as the old surface
That is simply not true. Over the years the surface gets weathered and it makes the track much grippier.
Formula One's fundamental ethos is about success coming to those with the most ingenious engineering and best ..............................organization, not to those with the biggest budget. (Dave Richards)
Though we should not read too much into the times of the FPs, but it seems as of now Ferrari is 4th fastest car behind McLaren, RBR and Sauber. What does the long run pace say? Anyone?
banibhusan wrote:Though we should not read too much into the times of the FPs, but it seems as of now Ferrari is 4th fastest car behind McLaren, RBR and Sauber. What does the long run pace say? Anyone?
Have ferrari brought any updates as the wind tunnel is shut
banibhusan wrote:Though we should not read too much into the times of the FPs, but it seems as of now Ferrari is 4th fastest car behind McLaren, RBR and Sauber. What does the long run pace say? Anyone?
Have ferrari brought any updates as the wind tunnel is shut
Alonso mentions some small pieces here, but doesn't specific what:
Regarding worn and new asphalt, polished, non-polished, worn-down or green, I can only quote Jamie Lannister in Game of Thrones: "the things I do for love"
I'm sure if Ciro were between us he could give us a better link with more references about structure, mictrostructure, tribology and all that stuff. However, I was happy enough with that search result.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr
Miguel wrote:Regarding worn and new asphalt, polished, non-polished, worn-down or green, I can only quote Jamie Lannister in Game of Thrones: "the things I do for love"
I'm sure if Ciro were between us he could give us a better link with more references about structure, mictrostructure, tribology and all that stuff. However, I was happy enough with that search result.
who cares about wore asphalt, we got a world championship battle on our hands developing
