2012 Japanese GP - Suzuka

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SeijaKessen wrote:Grosjean with a 10 second stop-go penalty?

Interesting.

Not saying he didn't cause a number of problems earlier in the season, but that is unwarranted.

Completely deserved. He's a first corner moron

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MASSA !

Nice drive from Webber and Schumacher, good to see Ricciardo in the points again. Very happy for Kamui also, he was trying to hide his emotions I belive, at one point he didin't know what to do with his left arm - pretty funny but if I was in his place I would have probably s#%t myself up there. Kimi's constant drive this season is absolutely remarcable.
I think Grosjean was at the wrong plance and wrong time on this one, I wouldn't put 100% on him for that incident, but on the other hand he has costed Lotus a lot of points this season.

A lot of fan-boys posts about the Alonso-Raikkonen and Webber-Grosjean incident. Bleah.
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Yes Baby..Yes Baby...now thats what I am talking about!! Yes Yes Yes!

"53 LAPS IN AN AMAZING CAR"

What a dominating race from the double world champion. Certain Englishmen could learn a lot from Vettel in so far as been able to set up a car.

Kamui drove a stunner for the home crowd, well done to him what a great race.

Well done to Button but too little too late I suppose.

Not the most exciting race at all but certainly a fitting result.

4 points... 8)
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NathanOlder wrote:Ah I see, surely that has been done more than 3 times over the last 8 years ? Grosjean has completed his checklist again today. "First lap, take out another driver" check. :)
It hasn't funnily. Just Hungary 2004, Singapore 2010, India 2011 and Japan 2012 as the last 4. There have been close calls, but they either didn't lead 1 lap (usually pitstop phases) or didn't get a pole or didn't get fastest lap.
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lukeaar wrote:People shouldn't get so trigger happy with putting the blame on Grosjean. I think that was a racing incident between Alonso and Raikkonen. I also don't blame Grosjean for Webber either. He had nowhere to go.
BS. ever heard of a brake pedal....?

This fool should be banned for the remainder of the season. He runs into more people than anyone since Andrea de Crasheris

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The podium was quite emotional. I guess this is the rare case when we can call all three — winners.

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zeph wrote:Wow, gutted. How did that happen?

Looked like Raikkonen nudged Alonso, huh? No penalty?

So another Vettel/RBR WDC then...

Alonso didn't give Kimi enough room and ran over the Lotus front wing. Self inflicted...

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raymondu999 wrote:
NathanOlder wrote:Ah I see, surely that has been done more than 3 times over the last 8 years ? Grosjean has completed his checklist again today. "First lap, take out another driver" check. :)
It hasn't funnily. Just Hungary 2004, Singapore 2010, India 2011 and Japan 2012 as the last 4. There have been close calls, but they either didn't lead 1 lap (usually pitstop phases) or didn't get a pole or didn't get fastest lap.
I guess Pirelli tyres go a long way now to stopping that happen, as we normally get a Mercedes/Sauber/Williams pitting with 8 or so laps to go and sets the fastest lap by a mile.
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Stewards response to Alonsos complaints regarding Kimi:
YOU HAVE TO LEAVE-A THE SPACE.

ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE-A THE SPACE.

Lewis just reported that in quali he was struggling with understeer, in the race he was struggling with understeer, then all of a sudden (around lap 20 something) he felt a thud on the rear tyres and all of a sudden the car started turning.
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Great race! Very nice driving from Vettel, Massa and Kamui. Lucky boy Kamui, podium at home GP =D>

I think we need a 3-race ban for Grojean...

Nice to see all the Vettel-haters here :lol: Complaining about his phrases and gestures is all you can do? :?

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Seb has clearly turned the championship battle around on this race. Alonso's luck did run out and the candidates are now just 4 points away. The momentum is now clearly on Vettel although Alonso leads.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Seb has clearly turned the championship battle around on this race. Alonso's luck did run out and the candidates are now just 4 points away. The momentum is now clearly on Vettel although Alonso leads.
looks like it going to be a 2 horse run this season.

not sure who will be a more deserving champion for this year. Alonso or Sebs?

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GrizzleBoy wrote:Stewards response to Alonsos complaints regarding Kimi:
YOU HAVE TO LEAVE-A THE SPACE.

ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE-A THE SPACE.

Lewis just reported that in quali he was struggling with understeer, in the race he was struggling with understeer, then all of a sudden (around lap 20 something) he felt a thud on the rear tyres and all of a sudden the car started turning.

Good one from the Stewards.

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CHT wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Seb has clearly turned the championship battle around on this race. Alonso's luck did run out and the candidates are now just 4 points away. The momentum is now clearly on Vettel although Alonso leads.
looks like it going to be a 2 horse run this season.

not sure who will be a more deserving champion for this year. Alonso or Sebs?
I believe none is. Hamilton deserves to be leading the championship at least. He has had his share of bad lucks and team errors this season.
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