2012 Japanese GP - Suzuka

[Lastonedown]

Nice to see how Vettel cares about the Japanese fans at the track right now. Other drivers do this only at their home GP´s.

[siskue2005]

These pictures cleary shows that Alonso had ample room on his right
unlike his statement here
"I had no space on the right, I had Button I think on my left, I had Kimi... and I don't understand why Kimi didn't lift off or anything because there was not any room," Alonso said of the first corner fracas.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103180

So he could have easily left room form Kimi and could have been safe into the first corner
But he instead sealed his own faith and crashed and then went on to blame Kimi for the entire thing

[FrukostScones]

Perez was pretty damn close to Webber also. Romain still at fault but Webber was very slow compared to the 2 guys behind racing. If Perez was on the inside he would have slammed into Webber and Grosjean would have been the one safe on the outside.

Grosjean already admitted that he was to focused on (not crashing with) Perez, so that he was surprised by the speed differential to Webber. He admitted it was his mistake and that it was a stupid crash.

[NathanOlder]

Yeah its obvious it was his fault. Everyone can see that. All im saying is, ITs not just Romain that would have had that accident. A few others would have had the same accident, including Perez

[Raptor22]

These pictures cleary shows that Alonso had ample room on his right
unlike his statement here
"I had no space on the right, I had Button I think on my left, I had Kimi... and I don't understand why Kimi didn't lift off or anything because there was not any room," Alonso said of the first corner fracas.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103180

So he could have easily left room form Kimi and could have been safe into the first corner
But he instead sealed his own faith and crashed and then went on to blame Kimi for the entire thing

+1 He always blames the other driver. Search for all incidents involving Alonso. He never accepts blame.

[Sambo]

[/quote]
We, the smokers, still belong to human race, you know. But I usually smoke quiet. Actually I don't know how to smoke loud. [/quote]

I smoke too and i don't know how to smoke loud either. Is smoking in the pitlane permitted??? Is that better?

[zeph]

From those photos I'd say Alonso did have space to move to the right, but again, I think he didn't see Raikkonen there.

Racing Incident. S--t happens.

[GrizzleBoy]

It seems everyone discussing the smoking in the pit lane outside the Williams garage, seems to have forgotten a certain fire in the Williams garage in Barcelona

/conspiracy

I'm just wondering, am I the only one who thought Perez was kind of "all over the place" today?

It seemed that for the first time he really started gunning for results as a top ten qualifier without fresh tyre advantage, but he looked quite ragged.

I think this is possibly a sign for next years performance.

He doesn't have the one lap performance to be a threat to JB (or consequently to provide McLaren with Hamilton type quali positions) as Kamui seems to have his number there and not a single "career defining" finish in 2012 started with him qualifying in the top ten and having to race on the same used Q3 tyres and same pace as those around him (which makes me wonder where the tyre management praise comes from).

[siskue2005]

and the other embarissing part was Alonso stalled his car when was trying to move from the second corner
a vetren like him shouoldnot have done that, as he could have easily got back and finished atleast 8th or 7th with the sc help
webber managed to get in 9th !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-WjG0cZgw0

[NathanOlder]

IMO Perez is good, just a little over rated at the moment. Will get better though.

[timbo]

These pictures cleary shows that Alonso had ample room on his right
unlike his statement here
"I had no space on the right, I had Button I think on my left, I had Kimi... and I don't understand why Kimi didn't lift off or anything because there was not any room," Alonso said of the first corner fracas.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103180

So he could have easily left room form Kimi and could have been safe into the first corner
But he instead sealed his own faith and crashed and then went on to blame Kimi for the entire thing

Well, he swerved to the left twice, and it was the second one when he clipped Kimi (not shown on your pictures). And it was the second one when Button moved onto him.

[Raptor22]

From those photos I'd say Alonso did have space to move to the right, but again, I think he didn't see Raikkonen there.

Racing Incident. S--t happens.

Indeed racing incident, but from his narration of the incident he's clear Raikkonen was there and he know s how much space an F1 car needs.
His aim was to intimidate the wrong person and it backfired, then blamed that driver for his own (AL's) lack of judgement.

[siskue2005]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

[marcush.]

I´d say a lot of drivers showed partial reality loss todays and should retire to escape the same fate as Mr.Schumacher...
Quite interesting Ricciardo moving from left right left in defending his position to schumacher...If it were the other way round the guy would have moaned and Schumacher would have got a reprimand and relegation to P24 methinks...

As ever Schumacher kept quiet.

[timbo]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

What makes you think about that? A race mistake? Didn't Hamilton have them too?
Monte was probably correct that Perez still lacks experience, but I'm sure he can learn.