2012 Japanese GP - Suzuka

[GrizzleBoy]

From those photos I'd say Alonso did have space to move to the right, but again, I think he didn't see Raikkonen there.

Racing Incident. S--t happens.

Indeed racing incident, but from his narration of the incident he's clear Raikkonen was there and he know s how much space an F1 car needs.
His aim was to intimidate the wrong person and it backfired, then blamed that driver for his own (AL's) lack of judgement.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLEAc58-cY[/youtube]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

As NathanOlder said, Perez is not a bad driver and will get better as he surely has been.

But at the moment his top performances this year are in situations he will not be allowed to be in as a McLaren driver (qualify in 15th with tyre advantage to try for a podium, as opposed to pushing all through the weekend for every single tenth you can and getting there, as Kamui did today) and we saw here today what happened when he tried to push from inside the top ten.

Not doubting his talent, just trying to inject some perspective and how it could play into his 2013 season.

[Raptor22]

From those photos I'd say Alonso did have space to move to the right, but again, I think he didn't see Raikkonen there.

Racing Incident. S--t happens.

Indeed racing incident, but from his narration of the incident he's clear Raikkonen was there and he know s how much space an F1 car needs.
His aim was to intimidate the wrong person and it backfired, then blamed that driver for his own (AL's) lack of judgement.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLEAc58-cY[/youtube]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

As NathanOlder said, Perez is not a bad driver and will get better as he surely has been.

But at the moment his top performances this year are in situations he will not be allowed to be in as a McLaren driver (qualify in 15th with tyre advantage to try for a podium, as opposed to pushing all through the weekend for every single tenth you can and getting there, as Kamui did today) and we saw here today what happened when he tried to push from inside the top ten.

Not doubting his talent, just trying to inject some perspective and how it could play into his 2013 season.

Gotta love vettel. He really has a fantastic sense of humour. Alonso, clearly less than pleased at being put on the spot.

Perez will settle as he finds his feet. Today he knew he had a fast car that could race, not just outrun the others due to efficient tyre use. He wanted to make the most of it and made an error in judgement with Hamilton. He will have learned from it. Now lets see if he makes the same mistake again or tries a different approach next time. That will be telling how good he really is.
Hamie better get used to it. NExt year he will racing a SAuber regularly

[Shrieker]

Strange stuff from Lewis, first half of each stint he is .5 - 1.0 slowere per lap than the cars around him. Second half of the stint he then catches the cars around him by a similar amount. Obviously that understeer is saving the tyres. 10 points today would be a great result considering Alonso is out.

He lost 15 to Vettel tough, which is very crucial given Red Bull's speed. But he couldn't have expected much more today tbh.

HAve to look back at Singapore though. If that Gearbox didnt go, Alonso leading Vettel by 11 & Hamilton would all be within 17 points.

That's how it goes It would've been fantastic for the championship though, wouldn't it ?

Lewis just reported that in quali he was struggling with understeer, in the race he was struggling with understeer, then all of a sudden (around lap 20 something) he felt a thud on the rear tyres and all of a sudden the car started turning.

So, that was the rubber duck dismounting then

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Hamie better get used to it. NExt year he will racing a SAuber regularly

It's a step up from Schumaher racing Toro Rosso

[Shrieker]

Lol true.

[Raptor22]

remember Hammie is bringing 0.4th's of Imperial seconds so i upgraded his racing environment

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Is that a whole second in metric? I'm not used to imperial.

[alvinkhorfire]

I´d say a lot of drivers showed partial reality loss todays and should retire to escape the same fate as Mr.Schumacher...
Quite interesting Ricciardo moving from left right left in defending his position to schumacher...If it were the other way round the guy would have moaned and Schumacher would have got a reprimand and relegation to P24 methinks...

As ever Schumacher kept quiet.

Couldn't Schumacher bring this matter to Stewards? Aren't all drivers allowed single directional change while defending? It seems that others are too strict towards Schumacher, while remaining quiet over similar mistakes done by other racers.

It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it seems that 10-place grid drop is overly harsh and deliberately imposed to prevent Schumi from scoring decent points in his favourite track. Sorry for the harsh words, guys.

[Raptor22]

0.4 imperial seconds is worth aroun 1.6 seconds metric. British commentator inflation factor has to be accounted for.

In Universal terms, 0.4imperial seconds it probably a net loss of - 0.2seconds on the nuclear clock.

We also need to consider other timing standards like Brundle Seconds, Davidson seconds and Jordan seconds.




Yeah notice, Schumacher never moans about someone else's driving unless they are just plain dangerous. He is a racer and focusses on the problem at hand, overtaking. He doesn't run home to get dad to come fight his battles for him.

[Websta]

It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it seems that 10-place grid drop is overly harsh and deliberately imposed to prevent Schumi from scoring decent points in his favourite track. Sorry for the harsh words, guys.

10 place grid penalty is harsh, but for a reason - the stewards impose harsher penalties for repeat offences, if I am not mistaken. As Schumacher had an identical incident in Barcelona, the 10 place penalty was reasonable and justified this time around.

[Dragonfly]

Actually it was the first time I saw such argumentation. Could accept it if there was no punishment or was a light one for the previous.
And if this is true, RG must have 2 race bans after today.
After his return MS became the most hunted driver and got punished even for a fault by FIA.
He didn't complain about Ricciardo because IMO he sees no real sense in doing so. If at all, he may have a word in private with the guy. Besides, he must have a team behind his back to support him. Which never really happened. I guess he's sick of today's F1 and just trying to savor the last drops of fun he can have with that bucket on four wheels.

[NathanOlder]

D'Ambrosio must be getting his crash helmet out again

[raymondu999]

After the race today I feel that my suggestions that McLaren will not favor Hamilton in the WDC hunt have been vindicated.

I've said that if and when McLaren knows of a Hamilton departure, then that will kill any and all plans of team orders - though others ridiculed me. McLaren has a past of chasing realistic titles, and if its unrealistic (but mathematically possible) they seem to just let it go. Case in point, trying to win the 2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix with Jenson.

Lewis will probably still get the same upgrades as Jenson, and his engineers and mechanics will still do their best for him, but forget any and all possibility of McLaren hurting Jenson's chances for Lewis. Heck his developmental feedback is probably not going to be heeded any more - they'd rather develop the car more towards Jenson now.

[Lastonedown]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

What makes you think about that? A race mistake? Didn't Hamilton have them too?
Monte was probably correct that Perez still lacks experience, but I'm sure he can learn.

I´m totally with you. Perez was a little bit high-spirited today. But we´ve seen better races from him and you just have to control him more. McLaren knows how to do this (because they learned it from Hamilton )

[Donuts]

After today's race i started thinking, is Perez a rebound guy for Mclaren? have they put enough thought into it?

What makes you think about that? A race mistake? Didn't Hamilton have them too?
Monte was probably correct that Perez still lacks experience, but I'm sure he can learn.

I´m totally with you. Perez was a little bit high-spirited today. But we´ve seen better races from him and you just have to control him more. McLaren knows how to do this (because they learned it from Hamilton )

+1

They learn't plenty from Hamilton! Sure Perez was hot-headed today, almost out of control, even behind Kimi Raikkonen, he locked the tires so many times I stopped counting...