2012 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

[dawguk]

Under what conditions would that imminent failure mysteriously go away without fixing something under part ferme conditions?

[myurr]

One question: They stopped Vettel on purpose, so there wasn't actually a failure on the car at that moment.

This is a breach of the rule, that the car has to reach the pits under its own power, isn't it?

The rules state it has to be "force majeure". I think it does not necessarily has to be a failure; if there is evidence enough that there was a problem that didn't manifested yet, but was going to if Vettel continued, then that'll be enough

Surely force majeure means that something has to be outside the teams control, rather than just a simple failure? Something like a tyre exploding or a dog running on to the circuit.

[stefan_]

We don't need the whole twitter feed over here, post the relevant tweets if they aren't posted yet.

[Omegadez]

No if it is only a minor failure than they will not get a penalty!!

If there is a problem with the pump or something similar that would mean that the car would not get fuel into the injectors causing it to stop. Doesn´t only ave to mean there is no fuel left. Although it all seems very strange to me, if there would have been a problem the car would have just stopped he wouldnt need to be told to stop.

[myurr]

Under what conditions would that imminent failure mysteriously go away without fixing something under part ferme conditions?

They're allowed to replace failed parts, or parts about to fail, under parc ferme. You'd be amazed how much actually gets changed in parc ferme.

[astracrazy]

One question: They stopped Vettel on purpose, so there wasn't actually a failure on the car at that moment.

This is a breach of the rule, that the car has to reach the pits under its own power, isn't it?

The rules state it has to be "force majeure". I think it does not necessarily has to be a failure; if there is evidence enough that there was a problem that didn't manifested yet, but was going to if Vettel continued, then that'll be enough

Surely force majeure means that something has to be outside the teams control, rather than just a simple failure? Something like a tyre exploding or a dog running on to the circuit.

yes, unavoidable accident. I guess in relation to fuel, a fuel leak on his in lap would be such an example for force majeure if he didn't have enough fuel.

[dawguk]

Eh. Either way, the FIA are pushing hard for a penalty and Red Bull are pushing hard back. Therefore, the FIA thinks something is suspect. This whole debacle is starting to stink.

[Cylinder]

Jake Humphrey ‏
It's 10.30pm here and @alo_oficial is still here, chatting to mates...and waiting for a decision that could change the destiny of the title.

Typical Fernando, his strategy tomorrow depends on this result.

[NathanOlder]

How much longer can this take! Dont they know we have Fireworks to go and stare at

[FakeAlonso]

C. Horner just walked out of the FIA meeting

He refuse to comment so I suspect penalty. Otherwise he would have said no penalty.

[astracrazy]

Jake Humphrey ‏
It's 10.30pm here and @alo_oficial is still here, chatting to mates...and waiting for a decision that could change the destiny of the title.

Typical Fernando, his strategy tomorrow depends on this result.

typical fernando? what?

its got nothing to do with him.

[Hangaku]

Indeed, although you could say that this is a bit of a Catherine wheel...

Round and round and round and ...

[Lurk]

One question: They stopped Vettel on purpose, so there wasn't actually a failure on the car at that moment.

This is a breach of the rule, that the car has to reach the pits under its own power, isn't it?

This is what I am thinking...

I need someone technical to explain the following....mainly because I am stupid.

This fuel pressure/pickup system, how does it work (basics)?

I am hearing from some that ''fuel pressure' issues really mean "not enough fuel left in the tank".

There should be some posts around the forum which will explain better than me but basically the fuel line is the following (if I remember well): low pressure pumps pick fuel from tank and feed a small room with fuel / high pressure pumps pick fuel from this room and feed injectors.

So if you don't have enough fuel in the tank, low pressure pumps will not fill the room and high pressure pumps will not have fuel to pick either.


edit: http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2012/06/01/an ... el-system/

[astracrazy]

Christian Horner says a statement will be made in next 5 minutes from the FIA

tends to suggest he doesn't like the result else he'd say himself?

[Cylinder]

Jake Humphrey ‏
It's 10.30pm here and @alo_oficial is still here, chatting to mates...and waiting for a decision that could change the destiny of the title.

Typical Fernando, his strategy tomorrow depends on this result.

typical fernando? what?

its got nothing to do with him.

The man is utterly relentless, you should know this. All he thinks about is "what is the gap to vettel", "How many points I need tommorrow give myself a realistic chance" His brain is one big championship calculator. No surprise whatsoever he is waiting around to find out what will happen.