2012 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

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motobaleno wrote:horner just said that they didn't change the engine
Possibly thanks to stopping the car on track and protecting it? Could all be legit.
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It's not about that though Cam - in any case, if they changed to Engine 9 now, that means they have an extra engine to play with, but without the 10 place grid drop. It's an all-to-gain, nothing-to-lose scenario. Unless a new engine isn't necessarily a good thing, which does raise a question.
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raymondu999 wrote:It's not about that though Cam - in any case, if they changed to Engine 9 now, that means they have an extra engine to play with, but without the 10 place grid drop. It's an all-to-gain, nothing-to-lose scenario. Unless a new engine isn't necessarily a good thing, which does raise a question.
If it were all-to-gain, nothing-to-lose, then wouldn't they have done it?

I wonder, is this a new engine for Vettel? I.e. his 8th? If that were the case then the only milage they'd save would be qualifying, as they aren't allowed to use that one engine again at a future event. This may help them in practice though so you'd think they'd still get some advantage, unless there's also a risk in running the engine in the race for the first time without "breaking it in" as it were.

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siskue2005 wrote:I thought they would have changed their engine , ie their 9th engine
It would have been great for the last three races
Indeed it is a rather weird choiche. I don't want to go into conspiracy theory, but it could be possible that FIA accepted let's say "hardly" the "force majeur" explanation of the stop by red bull (very often f1 cars remains without fuels and they don't suffer engine problems) and, to avoid more srious punishment, "suggested" RB not to change the engine.

what is sure is that vettel is using his 8th engine so the change would have been a big advantage

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motobaleno wrote:
siskue2005 wrote:I thought they would have changed their engine , ie their 9th engine
It would have been great for the last three races
Indeed it is a rather weird choiche. I don't want to go into conspiracy theory, but it could be possible that FIA accepted let's say "hardly" the "force majeur" explanation of the stop by red bull (very often f1 cars remains without fuels and they don't suffer engine problems) and, to avoid more srious punishment, "suggested" RB not to change the engine.

what is sure is that vettel is using his 8th engine so the change would have been a big advantage
The FIA would have no recourse to any further action if redbull did take a new engine though? Is there an actual regulation that covers this situation? Maybe the answer is in there?
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Ted just said Vettel will get green light when everyone has passed Turn 1.

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Cam wrote:The FIA would have no recourse to any further action if redbull did take a new engine though? Is there an actual regulation that covers this situation? Maybe the answer is in there?
The FIA have goodwill over Red Bull. They've allowed them to quietly bring their car into line with the regulations a few times in the last couple of years, without any big public tellings off, etc. Red Bull would be stupid beyond words to jeopardise that good will.

That said we're all guessing as to the reason why they haven't changed the engine, if indeed they haven't.

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Very interesting that Red Bull aren't allowed to test their car with all these changes to the settings. They're forced to wait in the garage until they trundle to the end of the pit lane for the start.

They're taking a big risk in changing the car.

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They have nothing to lose. They can put even a cow on the car to see if it is aero efficient in the race and if it is worth the update for the final two races.
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stefan_ wrote:They have nothing to lose. They can put even a cow on the car to see if it is aero efficient in the race and if it is worth the update for the final two races.
They have a top 10 place to lose. Surely Vettel would have been able to race all the way through to the top 10 without a setup change.

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Ok Vettel's already made up one place on Pedro De La Rosa.

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can someone post here an link with live timing??? please (except formula1.com )

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@Pirelli_Media
Starting on the P Zero white medium are: VET, MSC, SEN. Everybody else starts on the P Zero yellow soft

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What a start by Kimi =D>
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will be hard for Michael to keep pace with medium both Toro Rosso are on softs.