I noticed that Ferrari ran with a very deep rear wheel lip on their first stint, then after pitting, both Schu and Massa came out with a greatly reduced depth of rear wheel lip.
Any ideas why the change in depth, and the lack of consistency?
Its not lost on me thats for sure!! I guess it's my cynical view on anything Red these days but hey, numbers dont lie.DaveKillens wrote:Gee, imagine that. Shu posted the fastest speeds in practice and qualifying. Then, a device supposed to make the brake airflow better has heating problems? The irony.
So, Charlie Whiting was "satisfied that changes in climatic conditions necessitate alterations to the specification of a car blah, blah, blah" but was there "CHANGE IN CLIMATIC CONDITIONS” shown on the timing monitorsbhallg2k wrote:According to the 2006 FIA Sporting Regulations:manchild wrote:How could Schuey’s Ferrari start the race with rings/covers on rear wheels (officially ducts and part of braking system) and finish race legally without them when ducts as a part of braking system are subject of post race scrutinizing? Ducts can’t be *found on car and inspected in “Parc Ferme” and they were on car when car pre-race inspections.
*Please don’t tell me that Ferrari can give them to FIA from garage because that is completely against whole idea of “Parc Ferme” – what enters the race must match what is found in “Parc Ferme” so that it can be inspected by FIA.
"Each car will be deemed to be in parc fermé from the time at which it leaves the pit lane for the first time during qualifying practice until the green lights are illuminated at the start of the formation lap which immediately precedes the start of the race."
So after the race starts, the cars are not in parc ferme conditions.
Oh, and furthermore:
"If the FIA technical delegate is satisfied that changes in climatic conditions necessitate alterations to the specification of a car changes may be made to the brake cooling and radiator ducts. These changes may be made at any time after the message “CHANGE IN CLIMATIC CONDITIONS” is shown on the timing monitors, from this point the choice of brake cooling and radiator ducts is free."
Temepreature and pressure go up and always and since it is so than changes on braking system wouldn't be defined as illegal apart from situations with huge changes in weather conditions.zac510 wrote:temperature up and down, barometric pressure up and down, wind directions are not changes of climate?
Answer is yes to both questions.pRo wrote: Do the cars get inspected between quali and race? Or the parts, including tyres and whatever are on them, taken off during race?
So as long as the rim with the partial fairing weighs the same or less than the rim with the “complete” fairing, then there’s no problem.4.3 Adding during the race :
With the exception of fuel and compressed gases, no substance may be added to the car during the race.
If it becomes necessary to replace any part of the car during the race, the new part must not weigh any more than the original part.
Piola mentioned during the coverage already in China and again in Japan that probably they preferred to fit the “open” version at the pitstop because it reduces the risk of mistakes; in fact ever since the introduction of the fairings in Turkey Piola insisted a lot on the particular attention required at the pitstop and on the time spent by Ferrari guys on practicing the operation, even more than usual (that is already a lot).DaveKillens wrote: The facts don't lie, that device sure helped in top end speed, but didn't help in rear brake cooling.......... make your own conclusions.
So ? Too big is too big, period. All the versions of brake ducts used by Ferrari are inside the dimensions mandated by rules. I really don’t see the relevance of the example.manchild wrote: Temperature and pressure were going up and down in Canada when Williams was disqualified because their ducts were too big.