Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[marcush.]

i don´t want to sound overly smart, but I am very certain one should design their car already with all those pitot tubes ,and airflowfield measuring devices and run all their windtunnel + CFD work with and without those devices -so two runs per change on the car.Of course you race the car without all those measuring arrays still...
I think all we see in Formula 1 is a little too much improvised and this all leads itself to false correlations and even ignoring effects which NEED to be represented in testing.

For example: wind speeds influence.
How many times did we hear drivers moaning about having been hit by wind influences..but i have yet to see someone who is constantly quantifying those effects -surprising when considering it has an effect even felt by the driver negotiating a corner...and equipment for this readily available off the shelf...
Don´t come up with weather stations rigged up at the pit straight ,we are talking local wind influence logging synchronised
with the rest of your data sampling .

[Cocles]

It´s funny they ran a test rig at the last p1 of the season with their old exhaust. Like "well maybe we should see whats really going on here". It is truly bizarre.

They're probably testing aerodynamics with the 2013 tires, which we know distort differently. They understand the original exhaust better than the new exhaust, so they use the old exhaust to ensure they'll know what's being caused by the new tires and what isn't.

[Richard]

i don´t want to sound overly smart..

Interesting thoughts. Are you suggesting that the presence of the testing kit (by all teams) is influencing the results? Given the lack of testing, then they have to use this sort of methodology. In fact I prefer it because it allows human ingenuity to play a greater role in developing the design on limited test data. As opposed to infinite perfect data where the optimum can be selected by evolutionary algorithms with no role for the human.

I know what you mean about pseudo technical comments, but for every driver or TP doing their PR spin, there will be a bunch of engineers analysing the data and filtering out secondary effects to find the prime cause.

[clipsy1H]

sad will be 10-10 at qualifying between Michael and Nico

[munudeges]

Words continue to fail. With the engine in the back of that car things should be looking up.

I hope I don't hear the immortal phrase 'concentrating on next year' because this year's car continues into the next one. If it doesn't then all continuity and lessons learned are effectively lost and that means you give everyone else at least a year's head start.

[clipsy1H]

i have a bad feeling .... Michael will not past first lap.. and if it's rain Nico will be close to podium (maybe on it)

[user001]

i have a bad feeling .... Michael will not past first lap.. and if it's rain Nico will be close to podium (maybe on it)

that would be some statement. even not completing the first lap and drive into the box...

[MSC07-JCGX]

I hate mercedes 3 years of excuse especially this year, just screwed it up, no developments, works team is losing to force india and mclaren, tyre deg, were trying to sort out tyres, don't have the inspiration compared to the other teams, pits stops always over 4 secs, not a team that backs their drivers, no passion no drive, i just think they can't be asked anymore. is it that hard to not think, we have a problem go back to basics and sort them out. i.e tyres, the car is attached to the tyres so we need to change how the car uses the tyres, rear tyres sliding, more rear downforce, aero is king, downforce is essential front and back. Just excuse after excuse. 2013 onwards i hope merc suffer in hell! i could go on and on!!!

[Nando]

Funny thing is that compared to red bull they have done a better job in the three years then Red Bull did.
And now Red Bull have dominated the sport for the last three years.

There´s obviously no guarantee that Mercedes finally will produce a good car but it´s also no guarantee that they won´t.
Tides will turn as they always do in F1.

[Vasconia]

i have a bad feeling .... Michael will not past first lap.. and if it's rain Nico will be close to podium (maybe on it)

I am worried about this too, first corner with rain and in this position its very risky. But I dont expect to see Nico doing a great race if it rains. Under rain conditions Michael could do a great race if he has a good day, I am praying for this. [-o<

[siskue2005]

fantastic Schumy, thanks for making my last 15 yrs wonderful and every sunday evening meaningful =D>

[clipsy1H]

i just want to enjoy last laps with Michael... doesn't matter where he finish ... i just want to end this race !! not retire in first laps but i'm not so sure!! at start very hard .

edit: what a mistake for Mercedes!! they stops MIchael and puts slicks then they stop him again when could puts wet tires on first stop. So now michael loses 2 laps.

Btw !! what a race for nico.... strong race for mercedes.

[siskue2005]

fantastic race from Michael, dragging that car from dead last to finish 7th is just great racing
as i thought MSC let Vettel pass him ....i think that is just great gesture from him =D>

[alvinkhorfire]

Michael Schumacher scored decent amount of points in this race. =D> It is a pity that reductant pit stops by Mercedes team and the tyre-eating characteristic of that Mercedes prevented him from finishing in higher position.

Come on, Michael! Please keep racing in F1 in 2013. [-o< Maybe, try to grab that Lotus seat?

[clipsy1H]

What a race for Michael!! he was 2 laps behind. Such a bad call ... and after that he was forced to pit again without first pit he could be little higher.
Great race for him .... i'm so sad right now