Driver styles/preferences

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Adrian Newby wrote:The trace of throttle you are talking about is just to keep the car from slowing down in the corner before he accelerates.
You were talking about "getting on the gas".
And you can't know for certain how much throttle is enough. Anyway, if you ever seen a speed trace of an F1 car, you'd notice that it's always between V and U and never \_/ which it would be had driver spent reasonable time at constant radius/constant speed cornering.

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Adrian Newby wrote:In other words, at 90.1 degrees he "can" increase throttle. In reality, he must accelerate then, or he is wasting a portion of his available grip.

So, once again, he can either accelerate while aimed directly at the wall, or he can waste some of his available grip. Those are his choices.
Correct.

I think you're missing the point that at 90.1 degrees and further the lateral demand on the tires is decreasing. You can start to accelerate "aimed at the wall" but it will not throw you into it. The car is still rotating, still has enough lateral capacity to stay on path. The forward (as in in the direction of the path) acceleration is free.
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And you can´t simply plant the throttle just because you have a clear line ahead of you.

You´ll be facing the other direction if you did.
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Adrian Newby wrote:The trace of throttle you are talking about is just to keep the car from slowing down in the corner before he accelerates.
Not really... When he brakes, he get off the throttle completely. Then, he doesn't touch the throttle again until after he's off the brake. There's a brief period in between when he's not touching either pedal. In a skidpad you would need a little throttle to maintain constant speed, but you can clearly see that this is not the case here. So when you see the throttle trace go green, he's starting to accelerate longitudinally.
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Jersey Tom wrote: I think you're missing the point that at 90.1 degrees and further the lateral demand on the tires is decreasing. You can start to accelerate "aimed at the wall" but it will not throw you into it. The car is still rotating, still has enough lateral capacity to stay on path. The forward (as in in the direction of the path) acceleration is free.
Perfect, then. We agree.

Except that your forward acceleration is not "free". You have paid a heavy price for it.
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What price has he paid for the grip? the radius is opening up, so you need less lateral force to stay on your intended path. This means that longitudinal ability is becoming available. What cost is saved from not using that?

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@lycoming

What about left foot braking? All f1 drivers left foot brake as far as I remember, leaving the accelrator foot free to use the accelerator if they so choose, no?
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Left foot braking is universal in F1. They could be on both pedals at once, but why would you want to do so? In the video Vettel is not really doing this though at the start of braking for some reason the telemetry briefly shows both pedals being activated.

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