Isn't that already a fact though? Renault are powering Red Bull, Lotus, Caterham, Williams - Ferrari powering themselves, Sauber and Toro Rosso - Mercedes powering McLaren, themselves and Force India. The only other team to use Cossie power in 2012 pulled out.TzeiTzei wrote:They'll apparently be the only team to use Cosworth engines
You mean "Ford-Cosworth" made British engines and called them American rather than the other way around.KATO wrote:With HRT out is Coss also out? Would they should they bother making an Engine and proving "We are no longer Ford we will no longer make bad American engines and call them British" if they did who would take a chance in 2014...
Even only supplying a single team this year Cosworth still are in bonus since the "New Formula" was meant to start in 2013. I would expect Marussia to get the better of Caterham next year as Marussia has the better core of design engineers who are making better use of a lower budget.KATO wrote:With HRT out is Coss also out? Would they should they bother making an Engine and proving "We are no longer Ford we will no longer make bad American engines and call them British" if they did who would take a chance in 2014...
how much do you thing is KERS worth on one lap? 0.5 to 0.8 sec depending on the track?stefan_ wrote:Marussia will start to use KERS technology from Williams starting 2013, so it will be interesting to see if they jump Caterham even with the extra money that Caterham will have for locking 10th in the constructors.
source: eurosport.fr
Marussia confirme Chilton
Nikolay Fomenko, le président de Marussia Motors, a confirmé lors d'un entretien accordé aux médias russes que son écurie alignerait Max Chilton aux côtés de Timo Glock la saison prochaine en Formule 1.
Le jeune Britannique de 21 ans, qui n’a toujours pas été confirmé officiellement par l’équipe, n’arrivera pas les mains vides.
Il succèdera à Charles Pic chez Marussia en échange d’une contribution budgétaire s’élevant à pas moins de 11,5 millions d’euros. Une partie de cet argent aurait déjà servi à payer les frais d’inscription de l’écurie pour la saison 2013 de F1.
Chilton, qui a terminé quatrième du championnat de GP2 Series, est soutenu financièrement par son père Grahame, vice-président d’Aon, l’un des acteurs majeurs de la gestion des risques, du courtage d’assurance et de réassurance à travers le monde.
R b 6 rear half. The car looked fast, but was slow as molasses. Mostly because of poor pat integration. The marussia was better engineered IMO.marcush. wrote:Caterham basically had the rear half of Redbulls RBR8 .They Have Illey as head of Aero they have a lot of good people ...for whatever reason Marussia reeled in on them with a package sans KERS,the unfashionable Cosworth engine and the old xtrac gearbox in a modernized (pullrod ) casing.
The question really is will Marussia turn the corner as Force India did as soon as they contracted to Mclaren applied technologies? What about force Indias plans ?will they still work with Mclaren now they have decided to invest heavily .If they separate this could be good news for Marrussia getting access to people returning from that programme..
I did not know that I was lied to so its just simply a crapy engine maker and the fact they were for a bit American owned had nothing to do with the shitty designs..Pierce89 wrote:You mean "Ford-Cosworth" made British engines and called them American rather than the other way around.KATO wrote:With HRT out is Coss also out? Would they should they bother making an Engine and proving "We are no longer Ford we will no longer make bad American engines and call them British" if they did who would take a chance in 2014...
KERS installation and harware surely are identical? I cannot imagine REDBUll keeping their old bits which were so delicate and prone to failure to be kept in service..So maybe more like a RB7 rear half ,if not8.n smikle wrote:R b 6 rear half. The car looked fast, but was slow as molasses. Mostly because of poor pat integration. The marussia was better engineered IMO.marcush. wrote:Caterham basically had the rear half of Redbulls RBR8 .They Have Illey as head of Aero they have a lot of good people ...for whatever reason Marussia reeled in on them with a package sans KERS,the unfashionable Cosworth engine and the old xtrac gearbox in a modernized (pullrod ) casing.
The question really is will Marussia turn the corner as Force India did as soon as they contracted to Mclaren applied technologies? What about force Indias plans ?will they still work with Mclaren now they have decided to invest heavily .If they separate this could be good news for Marrussia getting access to people returning from that programme..
Why would KERS be identical? Sure its Renaults KERS but Red Bull prob have the skills or money to get a custom one from Renault and not the generic one.marcush. wrote:KERS installation and harware surely are identical? I cannot imagine REDBUll keeping their old bits which were so delicate and prone to failure to be kept in service..So maybe more like a RB7 rear half ,if not8.n smikle wrote:R b 6 rear half. The car looked fast, but was slow as molasses. Mostly because of poor pat integration. The marussia was better engineered IMO.marcush. wrote:Caterham basically had the rear half of Redbulls RBR8 .They Have Illey as head of Aero they have a lot of good people ...for whatever reason Marussia reeled in on them with a package sans KERS,the unfashionable Cosworth engine and the old xtrac gearbox in a modernized (pullrod ) casing.
The question really is will Marussia turn the corner as Force India did as soon as they contracted to Mclaren applied technologies? What about force Indias plans ?will they still work with Mclaren now they have decided to invest heavily .If they separate this could be good news for Marrussia getting access to people returning from that programme..