Do you believe in UFO?

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Do you believe in UFO?

Yes, I saw them
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20%
Yes, I believe but didnt saw them
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25%
Maybe yes, maybe no
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16%
I'm will not believe before I will not seen them
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20%
No, all videos and photos with UFO is fake!
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Total votes: 51

Nando
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Here are some more from NASA´s videos, excuse the music :)
Check out the first clip, something blasts by at a pretty remarkable speed and you can see the camera noticing it and following it´s trajectory.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc[/youtube]

0.40 is not a UFO, it turned out to be a thing from NASA but the light casted on it makes it look like a disc

Definitely some interesting things like the tower of babel on the moon etc.
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Sombrero
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKYngRjbQc[/youtube]

Walking down a sunny street to the library
Checking out the latest books on outer space
Going to the fruit stand to buy a dozen oranges
Then she and the books and the oranges go back to her place

She tells the same old story to everyone that she knows
She's just sitting in her room reading books about UFOs

Sometimes I see her sitting on the rooftop
Perched in a lawnchair and staring into the sky
I know that somewhere in some faraway galaxy
That some gray men with telescopes are gazing right into her eyes

Her live revolves around all of the planets
And she is constantly aware of all the changes that occur
I'm going to turn into a lens and focus all my attention
On finding a new planet and naming it right after her

Nando
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awesome contribution.....

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Former Canadian Defense Minister, Paul Hellyer.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BXqB059fPg[/youtube]
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Cam
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Nando, are you Allohamus? Because that guy joined simply to opened this thread, has one and only one post - yet you've filled the thread with posts? No worries if it is or not, just wondering :wtf:

After looking at some of the Youtube videos you posted Nando, what astounds me with NASA, for all the good they've done, they can't seem to be able to bolt on any HD cameras onto anything they own. I say we organise a whip around to shout them a few Go Pros, as that will help a lot with the simply god awful grainy and blurry images of every NASA related object in space. Seriously. The 2013 proposed budget is $17.7 billion and even Mythbusters have Hi Speed digital cameras and gadgets capable of capturing hi res fast moving objects.

Here's one other thing to consider relating to all those UFOs seen while orbiting.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
― Socrates
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Websta
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Cam wrote: After looking at some of the Youtube videos you posted Nando, what astounds me with NASA, for all the good they've done, they can't seem to be able to bolt on any HD cameras onto anything they own. I say we organise a whip around to shout them a few Go Pros, as that will help a lot with the simply god awful grainy and blurry images of every NASA related object in space. Seriously. The 2013 proposed budget is $17.7 billion and even Mythbusters have Hi Speed digital cameras and gadgets capable of capturing hi res fast moving objects.
These cameras provide a live video feed back to Houston - I suspect that transmitting high definition images over such a long distance in real time is too difficult, or was back when most of these videos were recorded. The curiosity landing was shot in 1080p.

Nando
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Cam wrote:Nando, are you Allohamus? Because that guy joined simply to opened this thread, has one and only one post - yet you've filled the thread with posts? No worries if it is or not, just wondering :wtf:
haha no i can assure you i´m not :)
If any admin or mod want to compare my IP with Allohamus i can prove it to you if you want.

Really i wasn´t expecting to see a UFO thread here and found it several months after i joined actually after someone bumped up the thread from the dead, so i simply posted my experience with a UFO and then just kept the thread alive posting some fairly interesting things :)

After my sighting it just changed everything for me in terms of reading reports, looking at certain videos, looking at documentaries just to see what´s being written about it etc.

It´s funny because i always considered UFO´s to be something people lied about just to get their 5 minutes in the spotlight but when i saw it myself i needed a re-think on that whole thing.
I just find it fascinating that´s all.
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"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

Nando
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I would guess Websta is correct with that. Not to mention most footage are from the 60-70-80´s when HD simply did not exist.

Here are some interesting quotes, and they are not from your average redneck,
Dr. Hermann Oberth, who pioneered rocket design for the German Reich during World War II and later advanced rocket technology for the American manned space launches, cryptically stated:
“We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone; we have been helped.”
When asked by whom, he replied:
“The people of other worlds.”
"In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My texts books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physist to learn about the unified feild therory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out their, perhaps even visted, perhaps on our moon. - ABC News Quote --
-- Professor Michio Kaku Author of Theoretical Physics UNY
"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."
--Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.
"When the long awaited solution to the UFO problem comes, I believe that it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum leap." "We had a job to do, whether right or wrong, to keep the public from getting excited"
--Dr.J Allen Hynek, Director US Air Force´s project Blue Book as a scientific consultant, astronomer, investigator and analysis.
"Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens as many people believe, and the Government is hushing it up."
--Professor Stephen Hawking
It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system.There is no doubt in my mind that these objects are interplanetary craft of some sort. I and my colleagues are confident that they do not originate in our solar system."
--Dr. Herman Oberth (The father of modern rockerty)
"I am completely convinced that UFOs have an out-of-world basis."
--Dr. Walther Riedel (Once chief designer and research director at the German rocket center in Peenemunde)
The least improbable explanation is that these things are artificial and controlled ... My opinion for some time has been that they have an extraterrestrial origin."
--Dr. Maurice Biot (leading aerodynamicists and mathematical physicist)
"The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not. It's clear from the Opinion Polls and my own experience, that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely to accept this proposition"
-- Stanton Friedman Defense Contractor Nuclear Physicist
"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. For instance, in the La case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination."
--J Edgar Hoover
"I am convinced that these ojects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth"
--Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding (Commander-in-chief, Royal Air Force Fighter Command) (3) An outpouring of UFO reports which forces response in high places, particularly when unknowns virtually blitzed the U.S. capitol in Washington, D.C. An Air Force intelligence analysis also concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. (1952)
"The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious"
--General Nathan Twining Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958
"With control of the universe at stake, a crash program is imperative.We produced the A-bomb, under the huge Manhattan Project, in an amazingly short time. The needs, the urgency today are even greater. The Air Force should end UFO secrecy, give the facts to scientists,the public, to Congress. Once the people realize the truth, they would back, even demand a crash program...for this is one race we dare not lose."
--Major Donald E Keyhoe USMC, Director NICAP 1953
"Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is. I can tell you, behind the scenes, high ranking military officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs"
--Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Former director of the Central Intelligence Agency)
And the logical one,
I feel that the Air Force has not been giving out all the available information on the Unidentified Flying Objects. You cannot disregard so many unimpeachable sources."
-- John W. McCormack, Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States. January (1965)
So you see it´s not just crazy young kids or dumb people in the desert who holds the same opinion, instead it´s an enormous amount of high-level people from various agencies, military branches etc that has these same opinions.
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"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

Nando
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Another quote that strengthens the NASA videos,
"All Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name.

Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence."

Maurice Chatelain
Former Chief of NASA Communications Systems
"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."

NASA Astronaut Scott Carpenter
Carpenter photographed a UFO while in orbit on May 24, 1962. NASA still has not released the photograph.
"Let there be no doubt. Alien technology harvested from the infamous saucer crash in Roswell, N.Mex., in July 1947 led directly to the development of the integrated circuit chip, laser and fibre optic technologies, particle beams, electromagnetic propulsion systems, depleted uranium projectiles, stealth capabilities, and many others.

How do I know? I was in charge!

I think the kids on this planet are wise to the truth, and I think we ought to give it to them. I think they deserve it."

Colonel Philip Corso
Former Head of Foreign Technology at the U.S. Army's Research and Development Department at the Pentagon. Four years Director of Intelligence on President Eisenhower's White House National Security Staff.
"I looked out the window and saw this white light. It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, "Have you ever seen anything like that?" He was shocked and he said, "Nope." And I said to him: "Let's follow it!"

We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it."

Former US President Ronald Reagan
Describing his 1974 UFO encounter to veteran newsman Norman C. Miller, Washington bureau chief for the Wall Street Journal.
and one last, for the logical minds.
"Something is going on in the skies that we do not understand.

If all the airline pilots and Air Force pilots who have seen UFOs - and sometimes chased them - have been the victims of hallucinations, then an awful lot of pilots should be taken off and forbidden to fly."

Captain Kervendal
French Gendarmerie
It´s pretty hard to ignore these kind of statements by these kinds of people don´t you think?
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"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

Nando
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Then you also have "The Disclosure Project" containing around 500 military/agency officials that say that they will witness in front of congress

Now what does Congress do? Ignore it... why? Nobody knows.
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Shrieker
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The Alien saucers hysteria is the exact reason why a space faring civilization will avoid any contact should they discover our existence. We are too arrogant with the assumption that we're worth visiting, when we're not. With our existing technology (from our pov), life in the universe is a rarity. If you could travel 100x the speed of light -or gather and analyze data 1.000.000x faster than we can now- , you would find that it is not. So in light of that, can you tell me why you'd want to drop and say hi to an ant colony in a remote location somewhere in Africa... We could be as abundant and insignificant to them as ants are to us.
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Shrieker wrote: So in light of that, can you tell me why you'd want to drop and say hi to an ant colony in a remote location somewhere in Africa... We could be as abundant and insignificant to them as ants are to us.
That's a pretty common fallacy - if humans discovered a bronze age civilisation in a nearby galaxy and we had the means to travel there with relative ease, we would most certainly travel there or send drones there out of sheer curiosity. Virtually everyday I wonder whether we will contact the intelligent life that no doubt exists somewhere in the Universe. Such intelligent life would have similar curiosities.

Then again, they would also probably be quite interested in our planet.

That's one of the things I wanted to bring up actually. If there is intelligent life in our region of the universe/galaxy, our planet will inevitably draw their interest. We have already begun to identify the planets and celestial bodies in our region of the universe that could support life. To a civilisation with the ability to travel vast distances quickly (and thus able to colonise), our planet would be attractive. But there are no alien colonies on Earth - just one reason (with a lot of assumptions though) why I don't think there are intelligent, advanced civilisations in our neighbourhood of the Universe.

All those quotes did get me quite interested though Nando, I'll check out that report when I have some time

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If alien technology, all derived from the crash at Roswell, was used to make all those things - and they didn't make a hover board, I'm pretty upset. Where's my hoverboard?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTFDelbpido[/youtube]
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Be careful with one line quotes. "Of course it is possible" does not mean "yes".

The full Hawking quote also says "Personally I believe ... we have not been contacted".
Stephen Hawking wrote:Clearly the present exponential growth can not continue indefinitely. So what will happen? One possibility is that we wipe ourselves out completely by some disaster such as a nuclear war. There is a sick joke that the reason we have not been contacted by extra-terrestrials is that when a civilization reaches our stage of development it becomes unstable and destroys itself. Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens, as many people believe, and the government is hushing it up. I couldn't possibly comment!

Personally I believe there's a different explanation why we have not been contacted, but I won't go into it here. However even without that there is a very real danger that we will kill everything on this planet now that we have the technological power to do so. Even if we don't destroy ourselves completely there is the possibility that we might descend into a state of brutalism and barbarity like the opening scene of Terminator.

Nando
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Shrieker wrote:The Alien saucers hysteria is the exact reason why a space faring civilization will avoid any contact should they discover our existence. We are too arrogant with the assumption that we're worth visiting, when we're not. With our existing technology (from our pov), life in the universe is a rarity. If you could travel 100x the speed of light -or gather and analyze data 1.000.000x faster than we can now- , you would find that it is not. So in light of that, can you tell me why you'd want to drop and say hi to an ant colony in a remote location somewhere in Africa... We could be as abundant and insignificant to them as ants are to us.
Yea i agree completely, i think that if it turned out that these saucers are extra-terrestial and not some black projects cooked up at a place like Area 51 or similar then they would be quite a lot more advanced.

However i think that when you are that advanced as a species, war and violence is not something that will stick around.
I think that war upon war upon war eventually everyone gets tired of it, maybe they have gotten their one-world government and eventually religion is phased out of people´s mind, and eventually all poverty and richness is also phased out.
When everyone is living a good solid life there´s no need for wars. We are quite some way of that and we are living in the most dangerous time for the human race.
Either we wipe ourselves out or we make it through and can evolve to the next step of civilization.


Besides, most people, most smart good people want to help kids in Africa for example.
If ET´s share the same philosophy, (pro-life in general seeing as we are all in on this together) then i don´t think we should fear any ET´s should they arrive.

Another thing that makes me not agree with Hawking´s theory that they will come and destroy everything and wipe out humanity is that the Earth is an asset. Instead of messing with it´s eco-system by wiping out ourselves it would be way smarter to actually try and make some contact with the people on the planet and trade stuff.

I bet markets exist in the universe and not just on our planet. Thus going down and blowing the place up is something stupid people would do, and i think if you have travelled across space, wiping out a planet is the least thing you will do.
It´s just downright stupid.
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"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."

Nando
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Cam wrote:If alien technology, all derived from the crash at Roswell, was used to make all those things - and they didn't make a hover board, I'm pretty upset. Where's my hoverboard?
It might just come sooner then you think...

Keshefoundation.org
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"2% of the world's population own 50% of the world's wealth."