McLaren MP4-28 (pre-launch speculation)

[Nando]

Mclaren aiming for 2 second stops next year. As the base time.

What was interesting was this,

"We've got a few technology changes for next year, but already compared to our preparation for the first race next year will be completely different from this year."
Autosport.com

I wonder if they perhaps have come up with a new system,

[raymondu999]

Mclaren aiming for 2 second stops next year. As the base time.

What was interesting was this,

"We've got a few technology changes for next year, but already compared to our preparation for the first race next year will be completely different from this year."
Autosport.com

I wonder if they perhaps have come up with a new system,

Source added: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104792

[wesley123]

The one with the tight sidepods, and these "midwings" attached to the side pods like a biplane?

yep, but I don't think it will come true

I am sure they wont, takes a bit of thought to think why though

[Gridlock]

Mclaren aiming for 2 second stops next year. As the base time.

One of the things I'd change would be to have a mandatory 5 second pit stop for all cars. It's great that the mechanics can have such a great impact on the racing but from a financial (e.g. helium guns) and safety point of view it's better to do it now than later.

[Cam]

Mclaren aiming for 2 second stops next year. As the base time.

One of the things I'd change would be to have a mandatory 5 second pit stop for all cars. It's great that the mechanics can have such a great impact on the racing but from a financial (e.g. helium guns) and safety point of view it's better to do it now than later.

Then why stop at all - that'll remove all risk and reduce costs? The team play a part in the sport and the outcomes of races - so if they can master a 2 second stop, it'll be good to see.

[Nando]

I actually enjoy seeing the crew make a difference in races.
Two good examples are Button undercutting Vettel in Hockenheim and Hamilton undercutting Raikkonen at Suzuka.
A tenth or two slower and it would not have worked.

It´s just a thing of beauty seeing the car come in, BANG and out again.

[raymondu999]

To be fair I think it's a game of preference. Some prefer it one way, others another. I personally would prefer that every pitstop in the world was equal, and so no one really got an advantage due to that, but I can understand why others prefer pitstops to be of differing times.

[Gridlock]

I actually enjoy seeing the crew make a difference in races.
Two good examples are Button undercutting Vettel in Hockenheim and Hamilton undercutting Raikkonen at Suzuka.
A tenth or two slower and it would not have worked.

It´s just a thing of beauty seeing the car come in, BANG and out again.

It absolutely is, but a minimum pit stop time would not entirely remove the skill from the equation - you still have to get it right first time and are punished by a sloppy stop. Plus F1 is already full of >5s stops due to nosecone changes etc so it's not like suddenly Kimi can have a smoke mid-race. 5 seconds isn't long!

Concentrate the money, time and development on the cars, not the rear jacks and 3-turn wheel nuts, is all I'm saying. OT

[KATO]

I actually enjoy seeing the crew make a difference in races.
Two good examples are Button undercutting Vettel in Hockenheim and Hamilton undercutting Raikkonen at Suzuka.
A tenth or two slower and it would not have worked.

It´s just a thing of beauty seeing the car come in, BANG and out again.

It absolutely is, but a minimum pit stop time would not entirely remove the skill from the equation - you still have to get it right first time and are punished by a sloppy stop. Plus F1 is already full of >5s stops due to nosecone changes etc so it's not like suddenly Kimi can have a smoke mid-race. 5 seconds isn't long!

Concentrate the money, time and development on the cars, not the rear jacks and 3-turn wheel nuts, is all I'm saying. OT

They spend alot of time and money on different aspects of the vehicles. In all that they do they gain mere TENTHS of a second of speed compared to the other teams.. Alot of money is spent on alot different things but 1.Understanding the tires gains you more speed and a couple more tenths of a second good AirFlow gains you a couple more.. A quik driver can shave a couple tenths off his lap times if he has enough skill to learn and adapt quikly..

So with the team spending Millions in every area to gain a couple tenths here and there.... Spending a couple thousands to gain 3 or 2 seconds makes sence.. It does in an economic sence and it does in a team and lap time racing sence..... So I think it's good they perfect this craft..

[michl420]

I think there are two important things this year to have a fast car (aerodynamic). Mclaren and Ferrari have this extrem sidepods to bring the air in the area of the starter motor hole and over the diffusor. Red Bull going the other way and seal the diffusor as good as possible with the exhaust. You can´t do both, so thats the challenge. I also think a max hight nose "could" work good with the extreme siedepods.
And why Lotus was so fast is a mystery for me.

[wesley123]

I think there are two important things this year to have a fast car (aerodynamic). Mclaren and Ferrari have this extrem sidepods to bring the air in the area of the starter motor hole and over the diffusor. Red Bull going the other way and seal the diffusor as good as possible with the exhaust. You can´t do both, so thats the challenge. I also think a max hight nose "could" work good with the extreme siedepods.
And why Lotus was so fast is a mystery for me.

You can do both, as both did. The only real difference between the Red bull and McLaren solution was the ramp. Both do exactly the same thing, and both do feed the starter hole, and seal the diffuser

[westech]

I think there are two important things this year to have a fast car (aerodynamic). Mclaren and Ferrari have this extrem sidepods to bring the air in the area of the starter motor hole and over the diffusor. Red Bull going the other way and seal the diffusor as good as possible with the exhaust. You can´t do both, so thats the challenge. I also think a max hight nose "could" work good with the extreme siedepods.
And why Lotus was so fast is a mystery for me.

Not just extrem sidepods to feed the air to the starter motor hole and over the diffusor , there was some other factors to the mclaren and red bull which played a big part in both teams development. On lotus the enfersis was on the front wing.

[westech]

From a spectator's point of view the best team with the best earodynamic methods and formulas has to be considered the quickest.

[Javert]

They merged a bit of MP4-25 and a bit of MP4-26 into -27

Now they have gone for a higher nose, connected badly with chassis

I wonder that is possible that MP4-28 chassis design will be .. MP4-25!



So they can have a high chassis and more air under the car, in a known design

Maybe with push to pull rod front suspension change!

[raymondu999]

Why would they revert the sidepods and exhausts though? Also - the nose would be illegal.