Question about the Federal State Reserve

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Nando wrote:Great stuff, thanks guys.

Btw, i just read yesterday Goldman Sachs increased their shares in Nokia by 400% or something like that.
Who´s money are they using to do that? Do they have their own capital they use or do they gamble with people´s money?
It could be paid with their own shares, loans,... .
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Exactly, paid with the 'plebs' money as always.
What makes you think banks have any of their own money?

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=mhee&v=PTUY16CkS-k

This is a great video about how odd the fed is and a little bit about quantitave easing, which is what your original question was about.

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Now that is my kinda video :) brilliant thanks.

Basically we are just waiting for the next crash...
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There's always boom and bust. It's a nature of the beast. It's just the Fed is very odd in its mannerism's with its hiring policy and its macro policies.
A lot of the problems come from various responsibilities that conflict people and companies have. For eg. The Bank of England has a job of using interest rates to control inflation and keep it at a certain rate, however the government dictates policy to the bank and as the biggest borrower in the UK would actually prefer inflation to increase so that its debt shrinks in line with its broader economic policy. Yet it also wants inflation to be low in the current climate to boost growth by keeping or increasing disposable income. It's these dual roles that conflict that create huge issues.
Another one for you, investment banks provide other services than investing, buying and selling. A big portion of its business is provide advice on acquisitions and mergers. Markets are weak form efficient maybe a little stronger which means that big gains can only really be made by insider information. Here you have huge banks one side advising companies about mergers and another side trying to make money of news like mergers, they are supposed to be separated by a Chinese wall to stop information crossing. Yet lets just say the wall is flexible.

Ahh the modern world.

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"Modern world"?

It's probably been the same since the first human tried to gain competitive advantage by gathering wild berries.

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richard_leeds wrote:"Modern world"?

It's probably been the same since the first human tried to gain competitive advantage by gathering wild berries.
In a way yes, however not really. The modern world via technology has eliminated natural selection etc. In the modern world now it is a constant strive for growth, due to expanding population which has eliminated the Malthusian equilibrium. This need for growth in this modern world causes quite a few problems.

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Wasn´t the FED´s closed down once in history? Then several years later (1913) they introduced it again?

Regarding the Chinese great wall, have seen some videos on youtube with Max Keiser.
He was pissed because Goldman Sach´s told people to invest in one thing but then themselves did another thing.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XliTvxqTtsE[/youtube]
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Nando wrote:Wasn´t the FED´s closed down once in history? Then several years later (1913) they introduced it again?

Regarding the Chinese great wall, have seen some videos on youtube with Max Keiser.
He was pissed because Goldman Sach´s told people to invest in one thing but then themselves did another thing.
Never really been closed but it has had it's role redefined quite a few times.

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Some more, interesting stuff.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9qdVBlK ... ture=g-all[/youtube]
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Nando wrote:Great stuff, thanks guys.

Btw, i just read yesterday Goldman Sachs increased their shares in Nokia by 400% or something like that.
Who´s money are they using to do that? Do they have their own capital they use or do they gamble with people´s money?
Well, one never knows. They have their own, and investors', and sometimes taxpayers' as well. They've got billions in bailout money that they kept for themselves. I suppose that if there is a valid conspiracy theory out there concerning international banking, it would certainly have to involve Goldman. I saved this little graphic from last year - I thought it was interesting...

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They're like a modern day House of Hapsburg.
Nando wrote:He was pissed because Goldman Sach´s told people to invest in one thing but then themselves did another thing.
I understand they do that a lot.

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Bredd wrote:[...]
The modern world via technology has eliminated natural selection etc. In the modern world now it is a constant strive for growth, due to expanding population which has eliminated the Malthusian equilibrium. This need for growth in this modern world causes quite a few problems.
I disagree. Natural selection just looks different now. If our use of intelligence and technology (and "money") ultimately proves to be incongruent with Nature, She'll wipe us out with floods, storms, disease, and famine, and then She'll start again.

We're barely newborns in terms of both geologic and biological history. We won't be missed.

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bhallg2k wrote:
Bredd wrote:[...]
The modern world via technology has eliminated natural selection etc. In the modern world now it is a constant strive for growth, due to expanding population which has eliminated the Malthusian equilibrium. This need for growth in this modern world causes quite a few problems.
I disagree. Natural selection just looks different now. If our use of intelligence and technology (and "money") ultimately proves to be incongruent with Nature, She'll wipe us out with floods, storms, disease, and famine, and then She'll start again.

We're barely newborns in terms of both geologic and biological history. We won't be missed.
I think you are looking for this quote,
"If we don´t realize who we are and what we are capable of, we will certainly be replaced. That is the law of Evolution..."
As far as the reply, i don't think that Goldman Sach´s is the sole player in this whole conspiracy but it does seem like it´s a key player.
Last edited by Richard on 07 Jan 2013, 23:39, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Added "don't" as requested below
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Edit: in the above post it should say "i dont think" can´t edit it now for some reason.


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And what do you know... HSBC caught for laundering money for the Mexican Cartel.
The same cartel that cuts of people´s head as if it was a normal thing to do.

Reply from HSBC? "sorry"....

Consequence? Convicted people? No of course not, a fine will do...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012 ... gns-senate

If a person on the street was caught money laundering he would be in Jail for probably 20 years, but because they all wear suits it´s a different ball game apparently.

Edit: great to see people actually care when banks sponsor terrorism...wonderful world we live in.
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banks create money through fractional reserves. numbers in computers makes this process much easier. the banks control governments by funding them. they control big companies the same way. they fund wars. it usually isn't this country vs. that, it's this group of banks vs. that group.
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