Technical Regulations for 2009-2015

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godlameroso wrote:Does anyone think the 107% rule should in fact be more like a 103% rule?
Dont see a reason for that
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At most tracks 107% equals to over four seconds off the pace. That means that on average you will get lapped about half race distance. This isn't safe if you ask me, because these cars are already on edge as it is, and having mobile chicanes can put the drivers at risk.
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I think 107% is fairly safe.

Saying that, I would love to see the "blue flags" rule rescinded and the drivers have to take a dive/make the pass when lapping people.
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godlameroso wrote:At most tracks 107% equals to over four seconds off the pace. That means that on average you will get lapped about half race distance. This isn't safe if you ask me, because these cars are already on edge as it is, and having mobile chicanes can put the drivers at risk.
So how many crashes really happened when lapping someone? It rarely happens, and for safety is just rubbish, drivers are more likely to get shot than get hurt by lapping a car.

There are no mobile chicanes anymore, HRT was the last one to be dubbed a mobile chicane, and they arent on the grid next year.

The only reason I see the 103% would work is so that Bernie gets his 10 team grid, other than that it isnt good for anyone
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103%? :lol: In 2014 they'd have to bend the rules very hard to 'equalize the performance' and keep most of the field inside 103%, or just ignore the rule, just like the 107% rule is ignored most oft he time.

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CMSMJ1 wrote:I think 107% is fairly safe.

Saying that, I would love to see the "blue flags" rule rescinded and the drivers have to take a dive/make the pass when lapping people.
what would be the point of lapped cars blocking and fighting with a cars that is already a whole lap ahead?

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langwadt wrote:what would be the point of lapped cars blocking and fighting with a cars that is already a whole lap ahead?
None. But I'd like them to be allowed to mind their own business and not be obliged to go off the track and die whenever there's one of the leaders within 1.5 sec behind. This (plus the hysterical whining on the radio) just makes the leaders look like they can't overtake to save their life.

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Pandamasque wrote:
langwadt wrote:what would be the point of lapped cars blocking and fighting with a cars that is already a whole lap ahead?
None. But I'd like them to be allowed to mind their own business and not be obliged to go off the track and die whenever there's one of the leaders within 1.5 sec behind. This (plus the hysterical whining on the radio) just makes the leaders look like they can't overtake to save their life.

^ This. Exactly.

The lapped cars won't be fighting or blocking. They just would not be obliged to ruin their own race.

If the leaders were to manage the traffic better and to make the overtake - which they should be able to do easily if they are a lap ahead - then I would say the spectacle would be improved.

Anyways..off topic a touch, though I have read all of the thread in my time and it no longer bears much resemblance to the detail further back. Hell! We almost had a cost cap :D
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I don't know if this has already been asked/answered before but now that HRT are gone, is qualifying going to change?

In that instead of 7 teams getting knocked out in the first round, it's going to perhaps be only 5. Or are they going to keep it at 7? So now you're going to have a much higher chance of one of the older teams also getting knocked out in the first round? But it'll also mean tweaking the teams getting knocked out in other rounds?

I don't know, haven't seen any stories on how qualifying is going to happen with less cars on the grid.

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I think it would be: 6/6.

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In 2014 what visible changes will occur on the cars?

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foxmulder_ms wrote:In 2014 what visible changes will occur on the cars?
Sorry that this falls on you but this is about the 5th time somebody asks it and it has been answered as many times by forumers..

You just have to browse back 2 pages to find the answer.


Sorry again this is not against you but when you do the effort of answering people and that 2 pages later the same question is asked again it is a bit annoying.


Hope you don't mind.

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WhiteBlue wrote:Aero will be a smaller front wing, no beam wing, a different air intake, a very low nose compared to this year, probably a shorter engine causing a shorter car and bulkier radiators for inter coolers.
Rob White said some designers might opt for a creation of an additional air intake for the intercooler(s).
How big the V6's radiators and the turbo's intercooler will be ? could they place the intercooler behind the driver's head and feed it with intakes a la Benetton B187 for example ? Or create an additional intake on the roll hoop ? how big the turbo's airbox intake will be ? And how big the fuel tanks ? I read different numbers. some say 140 liters and some say 100... How much fuel do 2013 tanks carry ?

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Blackout wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Aero will be a smaller front wing, no beam wing, a different air intake, a very low nose compared to this year, probably a shorter engine causing a shorter car and bulkier radiators for inter coolers.
Rob White said some designers might opt for a creation of an additional air intake for the intercooler(s).
How big the V6's radiators and the turbo's intercooler will be ? could they place the intercooler behind the driver's head and feed it with intakes a la Benetton B187 for example ? Or create an additional intake on the roll hoop ? how big the turbo's airbox intake will be ? And how big the fuel tanks ? I read different numbers. some say 140 liters and some say 100... How much fuel do 2013 tanks carry ?
Here's the answer to the tank size question, taken from BBC:
"Equally, the overall efficiency targets will remain the same - whereas now use of fuel is free, it will be metered from 2014. Currently, cars use about 150kg of fuel (about 195 litres) in a Grand Prix; in 2014, they will be allowed to consume no more than 100kg (130l)."
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Thanks