Sauber C32 Ferrari

[turbof1]

They are now effectively having DRS of a slightly longer flap, could it be that they are maybe opting for a little more df with DRS open?

For fun? DRS will be only using on the streight where You do not need downforce.

A slighlty longer flap means they will have more downforce when the drs is disabled. This is at the cost of drag reduction when drs is open. Given that drs will be less used during qualifying, I think this is the logical move.

[wesley123]

true but the flap does not end to maximum height. It seems that the whole wing is the same, but positioned a little bit lower in between the end plates. What would be the point of doing so?

[Artur Craft]

Also you can see a neat cut out in the floor, guess we know where the Saubers exhaust gasses go

is that allowed by the rules?

I would guess not. Maybe it's the lights in the photo that are misleading

But even if that is indeed a small hole, it seems so tiny that I can't imagine much effect that even the high energy(over 400kph) gases of exhaust can have there, under the floor, to try help seal and accelerate air under the diffuser. It surely would help, but the dimension of it just wouldn't allow for much df to be added. Still, that's how it is. Gain a little bit of df here, a little there and, in the end, you got some quite significant advantadge over your rivals.

Let's wait for some more shots to speculate further on that

PS: If that is really a hole and other cars don't have it, then I guess it's because they can't make their exhaust plume reach that are to enhance diffuser's performance.

[Owen.C93]

true but the flap does not end to maximum height. It seems that the whole wing is the same, but positioned a little bit lower in between the end plates. What would be the point of doing so?

An horizontal DRS flap isn't necessarily the least amount of drag. Lowering the flap will allow the DRS flap to go above horizontal without breaking the "50mm max gap" rule.

[xDama]

I am really excited to see the car and Hulkenberg in the season. Hopefully, at the front and on the podium!

²²²

Absolute beauty of a car. This is, by far, my favorite car since the '09 regulations. Everything on this car seems right, even the bump on the nose. It makes every other car look like an absolute dog in my perspective.

I hope this one' even better than last year, and with the Hulk at the wheel, who knows?

[ringo]

Car looks nice, but it's not very detailed.

[Blackout]

What do you mean ? it's full of little intersting details.

[ringo]

Generally it has all the best features to win, but we don't know how refined those features are.
Looking on the surface, Mclaren seems to have more "details per square inch" if you get what i mean.
Last year's sauber was no different. It had the edge with the nosecose, the coanda ramp, and the body. I thought it was a redbull killer.
Looks like a killer again this year.

[Cold Fussion]

Possibly the best looking car since the 09 regulations, however I really dislike the livery.

[Websta]

I quite like the livery, definitely an improvement on some of their recent ones. But I always liked the 2010 HRT livery - hopefully that is where the similarities end though. I think it would maybe look better if they inverted the white and dark grey colours .

[Cold Fussion]

I quite like the livery, definitely an improvement on some of their recent ones. But I always liked the 2010 HRT livery - hopefully that is where the similarities end though. I think it would maybe look better if they inverted the white and dark grey colours .

I think it's better than last year's, but that was also awful. I've always disliked Sauber liveries, apart from the bmw era ones.

[Blackout]

White liveries are super lame. The only ones that looked good IMO were the Bar/Honda between 2004 and 2006.
Back to the topic.

[Coefficient]

Also you can see a neat cut out in the floor, guess we know where the Saubers exhaust gasses go

is that allowed by the rules?

I would guess not. Maybe it's the lights in the photo that are misleading

But even if that is indeed a small hole, it seems so tiny that I can't imagine much effect that even the high energy(over 400kph) gases of exhaust can have there, under the floor, to try help seal and accelerate air under the diffuser. It surely would help, but the dimension of it just wouldn't allow for much df to be added. Still, that's how it is. Gain a little bit of df here, a little there and, in the end, you got some quite significant advantadge over your rivals.

Let's wait for some more shots to speculate further on that

PS: If that is really a hole and other cars don't have it, then I guess it's because they can't make their exhaust plume reach that are to enhance diffuser's performance.

I think the hole in the floor ahead of the rear tyres just sucks the tyre squirt away from the exhaust gases intended trajectory to minimise the detremental effects of the rotation and centrifuge effect of the tyres on the rear aero.

[PhantomPoster]

I've just remembered something, wasn't the C32 the first to pass the crash tests?

I remember after that news was announced, a fair few people on this forum expected to see the C31 rolled out again.

I wonder at what point last year they abondened the C31 project? Might explain why they never caught Mercedes in the WCC.

I really want this to be the year of the underdogs.

[Artur Craft]

Sauber has revealed the first major technical innovation of the 2013 season, and according to Germany’s specialist publication Auto Motor und Sport it could be a masterstroke.

Reportedly, designer Matt Morris got the idea for the C32′s ultra-narrow sidepods when Sergio Perez’s sideways-crushed car got back to the Swiss team’s garage after his huge Monaco shunt in 2011.

“If the trick works, the competition has a problem,” said correspondent Michael Schmidt.

Schmidt said that the C32′s sidepods are 10 to 15 centimetres narrower than those on the 2012 Sauber.

The benefit is clear: reduced drag and air disruptance to the diffuser and rear wing, and more scope for redirecting the flow to the most beneficial places.

“We endorsed the concept in July last year, because it influences the chassis and the crash structures,” said designer Morris.

He explained, however, that the biggest problem was not the crash tests, but accomodating the radiators, electronic boxes, wire harnesses and other parts in the drastically reduced space.

“A nightmare,” grinned Morris.

But arguably the biggest advantage of all is that, if Sauber has pulled off a masterstroke from left field, the competition will not be able to copy the innovation – to do that, rival teams would have to build a new chassis.

Meanwhile, unlike McLaren, Sauber has not followed Ferrari’s lead by introducing novel ‘pull-rod’ front suspension.

“There is probably an aerodynamic advantage,” Morris admitted, “but to optimise the benefits and minimise the mechanical disadvantages would require a really complicated programme that goes beyond our capacity.

“This is a project for the 2014 car,” he added.

http://www.yallaf1.com/2013/02/04/saube ... big-thing/