Mercedes AMG F1 W04

[munudeges]

Does the fire on the car count?

[munudeges]

Seems to me a lot more is burning than just a wiring loom. We can see fire coming out in front of the rear wheel.

It's either a fundamental design flaw or a massive lack of attention to detail. I suppose we'll find out what this week.

[mantikos]

Seems to me a lot more is burning than just a wiring loom. We can see fire coming out in front of the rear wheel.

It's either a fundamental design flaw or a massive lack of attention to detail. I suppose we'll find out what this week.

Right, because a lack of attention to detail or a fundamental design flaw are that obvious to spot from a still picture...

The fire, COULD be because of electrical issues causing what we call a misfire aka unspent fuel in the exhaust...which is what Merc said it was and Scarbs (or someone on Twitter) said the same...I would actually take joy in the fact that the flames are in the PERFECT zone showing that the exhaust gases are going EXACTLY where they want them to.

[Richard]

Cars have had fires before and it doesn't mean the car is badly designed. It just means the team are testing different configurations - some work, some don't. For example, Massa had a fire in 2011 and that car had a good season.

Lets see if this is simply testing fulfilling its purpose in flushing out gremlins (ref Massa 2011) or if it is a fundamental design flaw (McLaren's bodywork melting exhausts 2009)

[mantikos]

Electrical systems control ignition, unspent fuel out the exhaust = fire...pretty straight forward.

[dren]

This might be a temporary cooling arrangement.

That is my guess too. Brawn said there is a lot of development potential with this car at the rear.

[Gridlock]

We should all be fervently hoping that every car has a wee fire in this area this week. Can we have more analysis of what it shows and less antibrackleyianism...

[mantikos]

We should all be fervently hoping that every car has a wee fire in this area this week. Can we have more analysis of what it shows and less antibrackleyianism...

Good call - to me it shows the gases flow in the perfect zone, I was actually surprised as to how precise the flow was...shows a very developed exhaust to me.

[bhall]

Which part of the car's wiring is here?

[ringo]

I don't see the reason for the big fan fare over all this.
Cooling solution has nothing to do with a fire coming out of the engine.
How does cooling relate to fuel flowing through the exhuaust?

There is either an injector failure or fuel management system fault or a simple sensor failure, or error.

And if you want, you can venture to say that they were testing some kind of exhaust blowing map and it didnt turn out too well.

[Gridlock]

Which part of the car's wiring is here?

Nice catch. Also browned paintwork in adjacent areas (tail of the P, r of reimagining) on this one?

http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 991.21.jpg

Guess it is where the exhaust/Helmholtz would sit

[diego1960]

Burned paint as usual. I expect to see black heat-resistant material over the next 2 days. I was rather surprised I didn't see it already. If you remember W03 it had to be fitted increasingly larger black-parts so that the burning didn't show. Let's see what they will have done tomorrow.

[wesley123]

Honestly I dont see the problem here, it is embarassing, yes. But apart from that, nothing special. From what I have seen I would say something like this happened; A malfunction or something like that in the wiring, causing the engine to emit fuel into the exhaust, which in turn causes the flame. This flame is actual combustion and at least a little hotter than regular exhaust air, with or without exhaust blowing. This in turn caused burned bodywork.

[user001]

Which part of the car's wiring is here?

Nice catch. Also browned paintwork in adjacent areas (tail of the P, r of reimagining) on this one?

http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 991.21.jpg

Guess it is where the exhaust/Helmholtz would sit

oh dear, can such a overheating-problem be solved by the special material which was out of stock in 2010? i do not recall the name. it was one sole company back then.

[k.ko100v]

The floor at the rear is full with wires. IMO they didn't expect that flames from the exhausts, and those wires makes problem. When a wire start heating, it can heats the half installation if the safety fuse didn't works.

After that, we can see, that the flames comes from the floor at the back.


EDIT: If there is no wires today, this might be true!