McLaren MP4-28 Mercedes

[Jackles-UK]

With the effort they appear to have put into their tri-split turningvanes I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if the snowplough made an appearance. Sure it would improve front DF levels but so would the reintroduction of the FW cascades plus starving the splitter/rear end of good air (the whole reason for the removal of the snowplough in the first place last year) opened up by raising the chassis by blocking off a large part of it seems counter-intuitive!

[Javert]

With the effort they appear to have put into their tri-split turningvanes I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if the snowplough made an appearance. Sure it would improve front DF levels but so would the reintroduction of the FW cascades plus starving the splitter/rear end of good air (the whole reason for the removal of the snowplough in the first place last year) opened up by raising the chassis by blocking off a large part of it seems counter-intuitive!

That little element sticked to the nose seen on RB6 and late season RB8 could be an option

[Richard]

We already have a thread bout designing a car for undertseer of oversteer. Posts on that topic have been moved to rejoin their kin in that perpetually circular debate ....

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 31#p410731

[chumma]

With the effort they appear to have put into their tri-split turningvanes I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if the snowplough made an appearance. Sure it would improve front DF levels but so would the reintroduction of the FW cascades plus starving the splitter/rear end of good air (the whole reason for the removal of the snowplough in the first place last year) opened up by raising the chassis by blocking off a large part of it seems counter-intuitive!

That little element sticked to the nose seen on RB6 and late season RB8 could be an option

Which element are you talking about?

[raymondu999]

Trackside impressions by Gary Anderson, from the latest edition of Autosport:

Even though the lap times in isolation don’t look as dramatic as others, overall the McLaren looked very good. It has a secure rear end but, oddly, there was a bit of medium-speed understeer, which is something that the team needs to address. Perhaps it’s because the car appears to have a slightly longer wheelbase. But the signs are that McLaren, which had (on average) the fastest car last year, has built on those foundations.

[Javert]

With the effort they appear to have put into their tri-split turningvanes I'd be EXTREMELY surprised if the snowplough made an appearance. Sure it would improve front DF levels but so would the reintroduction of the FW cascades plus starving the splitter/rear end of good air (the whole reason for the removal of the snowplough in the first place last year) opened up by raising the chassis by blocking off a large part of it seems counter-intuitive!

That little element sticked to the nose seen on RB6 and late season RB8 could be an option

Which element are you talking about?

http://www.f1grandprix.it/download/wall ... %20(1).jpg

That

[Thunder]

You mean the Cameras?

[Javert]

You mean the Cameras?

Didn't know they were the cameras sorry ..
If so, I think (I'm not sure) that Red Bull position is better for front downforce (more air pressure there) don't know if it affects flows to other parts

[chumma]

You mean the Cameras?

Didn't know they were the cameras sorry ..
If so, I think (I'm not sure) that Red Bull position is better for front downforce (more air pressure there) don't know if it affects flows to other parts

Red Bull did a lot of experimenting with the camera placements but I think most teams have decided that between the nose pillars seems to be more advantages, sort of, 'extending' the middle of the front wing so airflow stays attached for longer.

(ps those dummy cameras are ballast, correct me if im wrong)

[j2004p]

Just to let anyone interested know, the iPhone/iPad app for the 3D MP4-27 has been updated to include the MP4-28

3D spinnable zoomable pointlessness!

[j2004p]

3D spinnable zoomable pointlessness!

Actually I might have been a bit quick with the 'pointless' comment.

Just using the mp4-28 iPhone app and spotted this when zoomed in on the side pods...




Seems like the mp4-28 in the app has a slimmed down flow conditioner on the upper leading edge of the side pod, will be interesting to see if this appears on the real thing before Melbourne!

[Owen.C93]

Lotus style.

[beelsebob]

Lotus style.

Pardon? Sauber put these on last year, then McLaren added them, then lotus added them after that. You can't really call it "lotus style" when lotus took it from Sauber and then McLaren.

[Rikhart]

Lotus style.

Pardon? Sauber put these on last year, then McLaren added them, then lotus added them after that. You can't really call it "lotus style" when lotus took it from Sauber and then McLaren.

You can, because mclaren adopted lotus style sidepod lips this year, and their flow conditioners on that model are almost a direct copy of what lotus has on the e21.

[raymondu999]

Lotus style.

Pardon? Sauber put these on last year, then McLaren added them, then lotus added them after that. You can't really call it "lotus style" when lotus took it from Sauber and then McLaren.

To be frank, they remind me more of the MP4-26's flow conditioners