Red Bull RB9 Renault

[Rikhart]

tgruener #F1 Sebastian Vettel running passive DRS right now. First time this year. Hope I can show you pics later. Red Bull is a little shy.

He apparently doesn´t know about the beam wing one, but it appears they are trying a full on rear wing version today.

[imightbewrong]

The beam wing one has never been proven, just speculated here on the forum. I've seen no convincing evidence..

[stefan_]

Barcelona (Test 3, Session 2) - Day 2 (01.03.2013)









DRD

[Rikhart]

The beam wing one has never been proven, just speculated here on the forum. I've seen no convincing evidence..

What more do you need? You had flow viz of its effects, the clear air entrance... Dont think there´s much doubt about it.

[beelsebob]

The above deffinately blows the beam wing as well as the rear wing – you can see the second tube turning down to the beam wing.

[imightbewrong]

The beam wing one has never been proven, just speculated here on the forum. I've seen no convincing evidence..

What more do you need? You had flow viz of its effects, the clear air entrance... Dont think there´s much doubt about it.

If you are referring to this as the flow-viz of the effects:


Then I simply see it differently.. That hole that you see is simply another element of the beam-wing that they can run closest to the end-plate (many teams do a similar thing on the rearwing). See this picture to see that it is a hole all the way through the beam wing:


I might be wrong, but I'm definitely not convinced of this theory.

[DarkJRO]

The above deffinately blows the beam wing as well as the rear wing – you can see the second tube turning down to the beam wing.

Where do you see a second tube to the beamwing? i only see the swanneck support of the beamwing, which has been there since carlaunch.

In my oppinion this DRD is more proof of the "little DRD" to the beamwing. Speculation is that the air enteres at the beginning of beamwing support. and now, the new big DRD also comes from this support and i can't see any new air duct in front of it

[Rikhart]

The above deffinately blows the beam wing as well as the rear wing – you can see the second tube turning down to the beam wing.

Also notice the tell-tale bit of flow viz on the beam wing edge, near the end-plate, again.

[imightbewrong]

The above deffinately blows the beam wing as well as the rear wing – you can see the second tube turning down to the beam wing.

Also notice the tell-tale bit of flow viz on the beam wing edge, near the end-plate, again.

I might be daft at reading flow-viz, but could you explain it to me? What I see is a gap in the flow viz, i.e. no flow viz applied there. If flow viz was applied and disturbed (different flow vector than the rest) then it would still be visible, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing.. care to explain to me?

[gandharva]

Very Interesting. RBR now uses the swan-neck air-inlet to feed both, beamwing and rearwing DRD. We already speculated about the extension of the system to the rearwing.

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See this picture to see that it is a hole all the way through the beam wing:
http://oi49.tinypic.com/2l9k2nr.jpg

It isn't. Just search for pics where you can see the beam wing from the other side. No hole in any of the pictures. What you are referring to is reflections from the metal plate they mounted on both sides of the beam wing. It's there since first Barcelona test.

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Here you can see the metal plates in the beamwing without any hole:
http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/image ... 472570.jpg
Maybe those metal plates contain the beamwing DRD trigger...

[Rikhart]

The above deffinately blows the beam wing as well as the rear wing – you can see the second tube turning down to the beam wing.

Also notice the tell-tale bit of flow viz on the beam wing edge, near the end-plate, again.

I might be daft at reading flow-viz, but could you explain it to me? What I see is a gap in the flow viz, i.e. no flow viz applied there. If flow viz was applied and disturbed (different flow vector than the rest) then it would still be visible, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing.. care to explain to me?

I mean the speck of flow viz near the beam wing edge, on the endplates. As far as I can tell, that has just been painted on, and not "spread" yet by the air at high speed. I think the car is just leaving the pits after they applied it.

[imightbewrong]

Also notice the tell-tale bit of flow viz on the beam wing edge, near the end-plate, again.

I might be daft at reading flow-viz, but could you explain it to me? What I see is a gap in the flow viz, i.e. no flow viz applied there. If flow viz was applied and disturbed (different flow vector than the rest) then it would still be visible, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing.. care to explain to me?

I mean the speck of flow viz near the beam wing edge, on the endplates. As far as I can tell, that has just been painted on, and not "spread" yet by the air at high speed. I think the car is just leaving the pits after they applied it.

Alright, I see. So the assumption is then that since there is flow viz there they are trying to monitor something there, and that must be the DRD?

[munudeges]

Question. When and why did red bull opt not to use monkey seat? I remember it being on the launch car.

The monkey seat was on and last year and was never an ideal solution. It creates drag and disruption for not a great deal of gain.

[Rikhart]

Alright, I see. So the assumption is then that since there is flow viz there they are trying to monitor something there, and that must be the DRD?

Thats how I interpret it, at least!

[stefan_]

Barcelona (Test 3, Session 2) - Day 2 (01.03.2013)








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