2013 Testing - Barcelona 2: 28 Feb - 3 Mar

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Sevach wrote:The cars are too fast right now.
The time to make Q3 last year was 22.9 by Schumacher and now Caterham and Marussia can go 23.1.

Edit: This is from twitter so i don't know how reliable it is, but the guy was saying Rosberg DRS everywhere, Alonso only on the back straight.
post the twitter link please

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Lotus says We're running with illegal engine-map-ban-deficit-recovery illegal exhausts for this run. Don't tell Charlie

:)

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Sevach wrote:The cars are too fast right now.
The time to make Q3 last year was 22.9 by Schumacher and now Caterham and Marussia can go 23.1.

Edit: This is from twitter so i don't know how reliable it is, but the guy was saying Rosberg DRS everywhere, Alonso only on the back straight.
Some people sure are annoyed @ the Merc pace at the moment...

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gray41 wrote:
f1316 wrote:Anybody else extremely frustrated with lack of live timing? I saw the earlier suggested alternative, but it's not quite the same; any other suggestions?
Not knowing if the fast laps are followed up with 4-5 laps after is the worst part.
I don't think they were followed up tbh.

When drivers post fast(est) laps, at least one live feed tells us the subsequent times after that time or how many laps there were, just as autosport/sky did yesterday with Lewis.

Today we've had what, five or six times in the mid 1:20.XXX range and not even a single murmur of whether those times had any follow ups?

Meanwhile as soon as Rosberg hits the mediums, autosport instantly start tracking his times?

I don't know......
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siskue2005 wrote: post the twitter link please
It's in spanish and it's in there, i don't know how to separate one from another sadly.
https://twitter.com/Diosfenix

It begins like this "Segun SKY- el W04 de Rosberg..."

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Lewis' time is almost being reported as though it's pre-qualifying for Oz GP, the fickle world of the F1 pundit.

The expectation has just risen a few notches in F1land.

The real guide if Lewis' body language and demeanour. It might not be a championship winning car but it isn't a midfield car either so there's something to work with like Alonso had last year.

Now ROS' time today is only going to increase the hype.

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kilcoo316 wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:Right now we are discussing data from testing and what it could mean.
And I'm telling you that going very quickly on a cold day could mean they are putting too much heat into their tyres - which will be to their detriment in the mid-summer when track temperatures are much higher.
So by that logic anyone posting the fastest time in the Barcelona testing now is doomed come summer time. Right.If it were Red Bull or Mclaren posting the fastest time, would you be saying the same thing?

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i think it is a misunderstanding as some teams area convinced that there will be two DRS zones on this track and Nico would have just opened it in two straights, which might be misunderstood for drs everywhere

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GrizzleBoy wrote:Looks like Rosberg is testing out the new "automatically find half a second in Q3" button that Seb had on his wheel throughout 2011.

Working well so far it seems.
Magic Paddle?

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siskue2005 wrote:i think it is a misunderstanding as some teams area convinced that there will be two DRS zones on this track and Nico would have just opened it in two straights, which might be misunderstood for drs everywhere
Nope, he says Alonso back straight (i would assume front straight as well) and Rosberg every straight.

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Dyanxx wrote:Some people sure are annoyed @ the Merc pace at the moment...
If thats aimed at me, I've friends working in Merc @ Brackley and definitely don't want to see them do badly.

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Shakeman wrote:Lewis' time is almost being reported as though it's pre-qualifying for Oz GP, the fickle world of the F1 pundit.
+1

Most of the F1 journos are idiots that couldn't even explain the difference between a camshaft and crankshaft.

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andrewf1 wrote:
kilcoo316 wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:Right now we are discussing data from testing and what it could mean.
And I'm telling you that going very quickly on a cold day could mean they are putting too much heat into their tyres - which will be to their detriment in the mid-summer when track temperatures are much higher.
So by that logic anyone posting the fastest time in the Barcelona testing now is doomed come summer time. Right.If it were Red Bull or Mclaren posting the fastest time, would you be saying the same thing?

Yeah... Alonso posted a 1:20:494. That would probably mean that Ferrari were in the same boat as Mercedes. If you include the fact that Button is third and posted a impressive lap on hards in Jerez it means McLaren is in trouble too. In that case Mercedes is in August company.

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Maelstrom wrote:
Yeah... Alonso posted a 1:20:494. That would probably mean that Ferrari were in the same boat as Mercedes. If you include the fact that Button is third and posted a impressive lap on hards in Jerez it means McLaren is in trouble too. In that case Mercedes is in August company.
Yup and the likes of Di Resta and Maldonado will dominate in July because they're slower now in cooler conditions.

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Maelstrom wrote:Yeah... Alonso posted a 1:20:494. That would probably mean that Ferrari were in the same boat as Mercedes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21550860
Hamilton wrote:"People are talking us up at the moment - [Sebastian] Vettel and Fernando saying we're going to be competing for the world championship... Well, I really don't see that happening at the moment,"

"Of course that's our goal. But you've got to remember the car was more than a second off, sometimes two seconds off, last year and we've not caught two seconds up, and the new teams will have put another second on this year and we've not caught up three seconds. That's just a fact.

"Hopefully by the end of the year we will have gained three seconds but definitely not at the beginning."

"We need more downforce, that's the name of the game at the moment,"

"We need to improve the reliability in some areas, sensors and that, but otherwise we just need as much downforce as we can."

"The team has won a race so they have clearly not such a bad foundation in terms of the mechanical side of the car but it's downforce where we need to improve."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21630743
Hamilton wrote:"Last season we were two seconds off the McLaren I was driving and Red Bull, and in the last race in qualifying it was 0.9 seconds,"

"McLaren have probably added a second or a second or a half, so that's 2.5 to three seconds the team has had to gain in the same period. You have to weigh it all up and think that's possibly not achievable."

"I feel it's going really well. I'm really happy with the progress we're making. For me being in a new car coming to grips with a new mechanical balance and new processes, I'm really happy with how that's going. So far it's going quite smoothly.

"The final touches don't come until qualifying in Melbourne and everyone has their upgrades, because here we don't know what fuel people are on, but I definitely feel we have work to do.

"I'm less focused or concerned about my position personally in the championship, I'm more focused on wanting to help the team be higher.

"We were fifth last season and I want to finish ahead of Ferrari or McLaren or all of them if we can.

"I want to see us develop and improving through the year which they have struggled with in the past, they have been maybe a little bit lost.

"If they are on the right road all the way through it will be great to see what they are capable of. I really want to stand back and wait and watch that journey."

"But we're definitely not going to the first race thinking we are going to be challenging the McLarens. We are going to hope to be in the top 10 and if we are higher than it's going to be great."


http://www.espn.co.uk/ferrari/motorspor ... 01960.html
Alonso wrote:"So we have now a car that is responding well to what we change on the car. We have a car that is doing what we expected the car to do. We know that maybe we are not the quickest still, but the starting point and the potential of this car is there. We can touch it now. Last year it was a dream to make that car work. This year to make this car work it will be much more easy, that's for sure."

Its there in black and white. If you can't read into what the drivers are saying then I can't really help you.

Just don't be stupid and go betting the house on an Alonso or Hamilton win in Australia.