Mercedes AMG F1 W04

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tranquility2k4 wrote:http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... ow_item=47

Auto-motor-und-sport is reporting of a new floor for mercedes?
Lewis did hint that a new floor, front and rear wings were the expected upgrades.

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So no visual upgrades as such, and more "under the surface" changes

Is this a team playing even further to its mechanical strengths, or one neglecting its usual aerodynamic weakness?

Have there even been any pictures of upgrades today?

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[quote="Owen.C93"
Unless there's any new info on it then keep it in the correct thread.[/quote]

This has to do with Mercedes. Thanks for your concern.

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is it me, or does that valley in the floor lead directly into what looks like a raised opening?

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Mercury suspension speculation :arrow: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 8&start=45

Why reinvent the wheel when we can simply refer to last year's conversation?

Oh, and testing talk about DRS has been moved, laptime lists deleted.

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dans79 wrote:is it me, or does that valley in the floor lead directly into what looks like a raised opening?

[url]http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Nic ... 40.jpg[url]
I think you're talking about a part of the brake duct.
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I think you're talking about a part of the brake duct.
That looks like it's molded into the floor to me if you zoom in on it. Plus it looks like it's a good 75cm from the side of the diffuser.

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dans79 wrote:
I think you're talking about a part of the brake duct.
That looks like it's molded into the floor to me if you zoom in on it. Plus it looks like it's a good 75cm from the side of the diffuser.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1345/42977339.jpg
Its the shape of the brake duct.

The lowermost winglet is shaped like the top half of a tunnel with the floor missing. When the rear suspension is depressed, it would create a tunnel like effect.

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I love when this team do couple of low fuel runs and make quick time, now everyone trying to play expert and find their "advantages", or this "seems odd" but at end it's just ordinary rear break, like on ANY OTHER car. :P

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Neno wrote:I love when this team do couple of low fuel runs and make quick time, now everyone trying to play expert and find their "advantages", or this "seems odd" but at end it's just ordinary rear break, like on ANY OTHER car. :P
Not really, they curve down their brake duct to the floor similar the the strakes in font of the rear wheels.
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That duct just fits into the picture that they have some problems with brake cooling. Which has caused the the accident of Hamilton as well as the Schumacher crash in Singapore.

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mep wrote:That duct just fits into the picture that they have some problems with brake cooling. Which has caused the the accident of Hamilton as well as the Schumacher crash in Singapore.
I was under the impression the Hamilton failure was caused by a broken brake line probably caused by the fire in that area the day before. Do you have a source on that?
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Owen.C93 wrote:
mep wrote:That duct just fits into the picture that they have some problems with brake cooling. Which has caused the the accident of Hamilton as well as the Schumacher crash in Singapore.
I was under the impression the Hamilton failure was caused by a broken brake line probably caused by the fire in that area the day before. Do you have a source on that?
It was a brake line, I read that from like 4 or 5 different sources.
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Ferraripilot wrote:Great shots there.

Can anyone further explain the benefits of understanding front tire wake patterns? Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not any real way to control that, so I suspect their purpose is to understand precisely what the wake effects and what it doesn't and that's about it. It's not like measuring diffuser wake or some other component etc. I would love to know if anyone has anything further to add to this though.
You can influence the front tyre's wake by changing the design of the front wing, particularly the endplate. Lat year someone referenced a couple of papers that showed some work done on this area. The flow structures behind the front tyre were markedly different with different front wing endplates. The brake duct appendages will also have a strong effect on the form of the tyre's wake.
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