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McLaren today celebrates its 50 years of existence as today marks the day that New Zealander Bruce McLaren inaugurated Bruce McLaren Motor Racing Ltd on September 2, 1963.
That depends, was he being truthful or was it pre season PR speak?Shakeman wrote:Jenson was pleased with how the car felt in the simulator noting it was a step forward from the 27. As Anon123 points out they were quite confident of the step forward with the 28.
If the coming good of mclaren in the later part of 2009 is due to Hamilton, then give Button the same amount of time to show what he can do. If you want to be objective, however, then you should be able to see that, despite Hamilton's talent, he wasn't responsible for turning that car around....2 different scenarios here....n smikle wrote:Jenson and Perez cannot hang on the narrow operating window of the '28, that is all. They need a driver who can unlock the car like in 2009.
Bullshit. Hamilton won more races, won more poles and beat his teammate 2 out of 3 years. Furthermore, in 2012 Lewis had 5 retirements to Buttons 2 and there was one race where he was classified despite not finishing, because Maldonado rammed him on the last lap.Pup wrote:True - Hamilton didn't "unlock" that car - the car was completely rebuilt by Germany.
And one has to wonder why Hamilton, with such unlocking ability, managed to score fewer points than Button over the course of their partnership.
Not to say that there isn't room for concern over Button's ability to setup his car. He's certainly had years where that was the case. But no one is unlocking in the course of a single race.
What about Repsol? They have a history with Honda, which could provide an outlet for engine development; they have "brand synergy" with McLaren; and they have loads of money.Pup wrote:Telmex does sponsor Perez, but they are a smaller subsidiary of Slim's main company with no presence outside of Mexico. I don't think it's really a growth company either, since they deal in landline service. IMO, it's unlikely that Slim would pay for their branding as a title sponsor. His larger companies are Claro and Telcel. Claro, in particular, has a presence throughout Central and South America; and if he were to expand elsewhere, that seems most likely the brand he would use.
GSK could just as easily be the one. I've heard Rolex mentioned also, but that seems more far fetched.
Panties in a wad? I didn't say that Button "beat" Hamilton. I said that he scored more points, which is true; i.e., not bullshit; i.e., Button wasn't dependent upon Hamilton's mad locksmithing skillz. Please note that I am a Hamilton fan, just not a mouth-frothing, unreasonable one who insists on giving him credit for all that is good and true.flmkane wrote:Bullshit.
Well points accumulated over 3 years isn't really saying anything helpfull, as there is a new car for each year.Pup wrote:Panties in a wad? I didn't say that Button "beat" Hamilton. I said that he scored more points, which is true; i.e., not bullshit; i.e., Button wasn't dependent upon Hamilton's mad locksmithing skillz. Please note that I am a Hamilton fan, just not a mouth-frothing, unreasonable one who insists on giving him credit for all that is good and true.flmkane wrote:Bullshit.
Sheesh.
Anyway, I don't know nuthin about Repsol, other than they're Spanish, and sell oil, and might not want their logo next to Mobil's.
I'm just glad they said the 28 has more downforce than the 27
Pardon? What had that got to do with anything?CjC wrote:All hail king Lewis
They didn't – they said the 28 has the potential to have more downforce than the 27 if they figure out how to make it work right.I'm just glad they said the 28 has more downforce than the 27