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Mercedes AMG has announced it has signed two engineers from Red Bull Racing to strengthen the technical department following the departure of Ross Brawn as team principal.
Whilst over on SkyF1, Wolff says he understood the need for Ross to make the decision. So you pays your money.....thomin wrote:Just on German TV: Lauda and Wolff both criticizing Ross for his decision to call off Rosberg....
The point wasn't so much that Rosberg should have ignored his orders the way Vettel did, but that maybe the order was wrong to begin with, at least Lauda was very clear on that and Toto said he totally agreed.Shakeman wrote:They obviously have an agreement that they race until last pitstop then bring the cars home and sometimes that looks arse because the second car has an overwhelming advantage. You have to keep to team agreements otherwise you end up with the RB situation that will be toxic in the team. The RB situation will rumble on this year.
Merc played it well and Lewis was the one that benefitted but who's to say Nico won't be the benefactor in the future?
The drivers are very close which means that it's even more important to stick to prearranged agreements because the slightest hint of favouritism will be destructive.
The alternative is no team orders which was impossible to police anyway.
Yes, definitely. Both cars were short on fuel and the risk of two DNF's was too great for the team to take. They short-fuelled the car in anticipation for rain and some saefty car periods during the race. I think it was a sensible call even in hindsight. It was just that neither took place during the race.beelsebob wrote:A few things various people have said have hinted that Rosberg was tight on fuel too, and would not have made the end if released. It may well be that half the reason for the order was to hold Rosberg back to the same pace that Hamilton was maintaining to save fuel.
not really ... rosberg could end if you re-watch race when he ask team to let race Lewis he already think about RB so why he do that if it was on low fuel?wunderkind wrote:Yes, definitely. Both cars were short on fuel and the risk of two DNF's was too great for the team to take. They short-fuelled the car in anticipation for rain and some saefty car periods during the race. I think it was a sensible call even in hindsight. It was just that neither took place during the race.beelsebob wrote:A few things various people have said have hinted that Rosberg was tight on fuel too, and would not have made the end if released. It may well be that half the reason for the order was to hold Rosberg back to the same pace that Hamilton was maintaining to save fuel.
He would do that because it's true – he could drive much faster and get after the RedBulls. But then... So could Lewis.clipsy1H wrote:not really ... rosberg could end if you re-watch race when he ask team to let race Lewis he already think about RB so why he do that if it was on low fuel?wunderkind wrote:Yes, definitely. Both cars were short on fuel and the risk of two DNF's was too great for the team to take. They short-fuelled the car in anticipation for rain and some saefty car periods during the race. I think it was a sensible call even in hindsight. It was just that neither took place during the race.beelsebob wrote:A few things various people have said have hinted that Rosberg was tight on fuel too, and would not have made the end if released. It may well be that half the reason for the order was to hold Rosberg back to the same pace that Hamilton was maintaining to save fuel.
in my opinion things are: Lewis was fastest and he ended on podium without problems maybe he can fight with red bull for win or for higher place but he ran out of fuel so i also think nico deserve to be on podium because he can manage everything (fuel tyres race pace) so like i said in last message it wasn't his fault for Lewis problem.beelsebob wrote: He would do that because it's true – he could drive much faster and get after the RedBulls. But then... So could Lewis.
He would use the fact that he could go much faster to try and justify that he wanted to be on the podium. He also almost certainly had no clue at that point how much fuel he had, or needed.
no... Nico doesn't even tried to overtake Lewis after first radio he just wanted to show us that he's much faster and deserve to be on podium for this reason he stayed close to Lewis till end. Couldn't be any crash because Nico was much faster and Lewis needs to save fuel so he can't fight.dren wrote:Ross let the two race for quite a few laps. Nico couldn't get a large enough gap in. Instead of risking a crash between the two, Ross made the team decision to get the most from the points. I would have done the same. This is very much a team sport as it is an individual one.
Overall good race today for Mercedes. They are quick in qualification and also in the race.
..it's still the Brackley team and the engine devision is in the UK too. They rate Hamilton very high.clipsy1H wrote:not really ... rosberg could end if you re-watch race when he ask team to let race Lewis he already think about RB so why he do that if it was on low fuel?wunderkind wrote:Yes, definitely. Both cars were short on fuel and the risk of two DNF's was too great for the team to take. They short-fuelled the car in anticipation for rain and some saefty car periods during the race. I think it was a sensible call even in hindsight. It was just that neither took place during the race.beelsebob wrote:A few things various people have said have hinted that Rosberg was tight on fuel too, and would not have made the end if released. It may well be that half the reason for the order was to hold Rosberg back to the same pace that Hamilton was maintaining to save fuel.
It was a silly decision for Ross ... he should let Nico race and i'm sure Lewis would more happy than now. I don't know how accurate Lauda interview is but we must to not forget! Mercedes is a GERMAN team . money comes from Germany few sponsors comes for Germany and Nico is German and i'm sure there is people in Mercedes board who wants to talk with Ross and to ask him why in the world made this stupid decision because it wasn't Nico fault for Lewis fuel (it was team fault)
and btw: nice article (idk if it was posted earlier in this thread) http://www.crash.net/f1/news/189203/1/l ... _move.html
lol that's quite funny ... Mercedes is a German auto brand! Puma . Allianz are german companies and if i'm not wrong but the boss of Mercedes is also German?Mika1 wrote:...it's still the Brackley team and the engine devision is in the UK too. They rate Hamilton very high.
They were better on the tires than Red Bull but they couldn't apply the pressure at the end. Nonetheless, Mercedes are off to their best start ever.Ross did admit during the race that they were "a little rusty". Let's just hope they don't make it a habit.OppositeLock wrote:Rosberg was leading the 2011 Chinese GP race but was told to start fuel saving. It's incompetence from Brawn if the fuel saving story is true.