Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

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clipsy1H wrote:
Mika1 wrote: ... it's still the Brackley team and the engine devision is in the UK too. They rate Hamilton very high.
lol that's quite funny ... Mercedes is a German auto brand! Puma . Allianz are german companies and if i'm not wrong but the boss of Mercedes is also German?
Doesn't matter where F1 team have base ... just money matter and money comes from Stuttgart, Germany and by the way team use a German license so they represents Germany not UK.
That doesn't mean they have to favour Rosberg all the time, because he is German. Toto Wolff said in a Sky interview Hamilton has got the team behind him.
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Mika1 wrote:
clipsy1H wrote:
Mika1 wrote: it's still the Brackley team and the engine devision is in the UK too. They rate Hamilton very high.
lol that's quite funny ... Mercedes is a German auto brand! Puma . Allianz are german companies and if i'm not wrong but the boss of Mercedes is also German?
Doesn't matter where F1 team have base ... just money matter and money comes from Stuttgart, Germany and by the way team use a German license so they represents Germany not UK.
That doesn't mean they have to favour Rosberg all the time, because he is German. Toto Wolff said in a Sky interview Hamilton has got the team behind him.
lol ... stop be a fanboy and watch the race! how they favour Rosberg? you don't even read the message! i said Lewis was faster but at the end Team should let Nico race because wasn't his fault for Lewis problems. I never said that Merc should be with Nico just because he's German like team.
by the way: Wolff never said anything like that at sky after the race.... and doesn't matter if Lewis has team behind him if Nico is faster and they don't let him race i'm sure the top of Mercedes will take actions against.

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Rosberg had atleast 3 chances to get past hamilton and pull away but he failed to do that properly. Passing Lewis in the 1st DRS zone wasn't a very good idea as lewis passed him again in the 2nd DRS zone, which kept rosberg behind him for the entire lap. I think this happened thrice. Had Rosberg overtaken lewis on the main straight he had a good chance of staying in front and no team orders would ve been required.

While watching the race I was a little pissed that Rosberg was asked to stay behind but when I thought about it, he had his chances, and the result in the end was good for the team. The thing to note is that both drivers did a superb race and got 27 points for Mercedes. Rosberg will get his podium soon.
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Wolff said it during a interview before the race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRyvQamgVN4 and I am sure the same thing will happen again. If Lewis is in front and ''the race'' is almost done, Rosberg has to stay behind Hamilton.
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spadeflush wrote:Rosberg had atleast 3 chances to get past hamilton and pull away but he failed to do that properly. Passing Lewis in the 1st DRS zone wasn't a very good idea as lewis passed him again in the 2nd DRS zone, which kept rosberg behind him for the entire lap. I think this happened thrice. Had Rosberg overtaken lewis on the main straight he had a good chance of staying in front and no team orders would ve been required.

While watching the race I was a little pissed that Rosberg was asked to stay behind but when I thought about it, he had his chances, and the result in the end was good for the team. The thing to note is that both drivers did a superb race and got 27 points for Mercedes. Rosberg will get his podium soon.

A great verdict. I felt sorry for Nico, but like Spadeflush said, Nico had his chances. They were racing up to the last pit stops and then they were told to stay in position. Totally fair. Other teams race this way. Who ever leads after the last stops gets to finish infront. Im sure the drivers know this, It was just the fact that Nico was prob thinking Lewis was in trouble and he could go alot faster. Once Ross told him that Lewis could also go alot faster Nico seemed to quiet down.

Im sure if Button was still in the race and was close to the Mers's they wouldnt have hesitated in letting Nico through. It was just that they were so far ahead of the rest of the field they could have both drivers hold position.

On the plus side, Merc were closer to the Front than Ferrari were to Merc, even with alot of fuel saving. Positives all round if you ask me. Hopefully they have a strong race in China & Bahrain to have good momentum into Europe
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Mika1 wrote:Wolff said it during a interview before the race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRyvQamgVN4 and I am sure the same thing will happen again. If Lewis is in front and ''the race'' is almost done, Rosberg has to stay behind Hamilton.
man they are behind him like a family and they are trying to integrate him quickly and to fell comfortable because is hard to change your "life". but there's nothing about who's the first driver.
And this will not happen again not in next races probably at the end of the season when i hope lewis will be in championship fight with Vettel.

How do you ever think that Mercedes offered to Hamilton a contract which can guarantee him to be number 1 in team? after Nico beats Michael 3 years in row and develop the car? and to be honest i don't think Lewis need this because he's much faster and better than Rosberg but he wasn't today because of team :?

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You know what chaps ive just thought of something. Mercedes might have got a 5th-6th in Australia. They got a 3rd-4th in malaysia. Too much to ask for a 1-2 in China [-o<
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I think it is reasonable to ask for a 1-2...
We have good tyre management, enough down-force and a DRD.

My view on the Team orders incident is this: I think it was the right call by Brawn because Nico had his chances to overtake and stream away from Hamilton, and he couldn't. That is because Hamilton could go faster too. The problem was that if they both went faster they would both run out of fuel.
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Chaps, have you seen this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmTXt5VHUU8

Skip to about 42s.
It's not like at Mercedes where there's a clear number one and number two. Basically we treat the drivers the same
What a doos! I can not believe he would have the nerve say this? I wonder what Webber has to say about this?

For the record, I'm not debating hamilton-rosberg incident and whether it was right or wrong or whatever. But what that imbicile is saying considering the reputation his own team has gained over the last thee or four or years.
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NewtonMeter wrote:Chaps, have you seen this?!



Skip to about 42s.
It's not like at Mercedes where there's a clear number one and number two. Basically we treat the drivers the same
What a doos! I can not believe he would have the nerve say this? I wonder what Webber has to say about this?

For the record, I'm not debating hamilton-rosberg incident and whether it was right or wrong or whatever. But what that imbicile is saying considering the reputation his own team has gained over the last thee or four or years.
AHH dont show me it again ive been complaining about helmut marko all day. The guy lives in a fairytall land if he thinks there isnt a clear number 1 at redbull yet there is at mercedes.

I cant watch it anyway, wrong country. Wont I look like an idiot if its not about marko.
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SilverArrow10 wrote: I cant watch it anyway, wrong country. Wont I look like an idiot if its not about marko.
Don't you worry, your dignity is quite safe...
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I've just seen him say the same thing to the bbc media. Toto Wolff was right behind him and heard it all! he just turned around opened mouthed and walked off.
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"Ok Lewis, Its Hammertime!!" - Peter Bonnington

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SilverArrow10 wrote:I've just seen him say the same thing to the bbc media. Toto Wolff was right behind him and heard it all! he just turned around opened mouthed and walked off.
:lol:
Helmut or Toto? You wouldn't happen to have a youtube link there, would you? Would love to see it. Or did you see it on TV?
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Toto walked off. It was on the BBC coverage on TV, you might be able to find it somewhere or have you got access to bbc iplayer?

Watching again he might not have heard it but still pretty funny if he did around the 1:49 minute mark if you have bbc iplayer just had a look
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I'm not sure who in the team has the final say son strategy offered to the drivers but they should be replaced.

In Australia they tried to do 1 less pit stop and here they tried short fueling...to me this screams that whoever makes these calls is not confident in the cars pure performance and is relying on "trick" strategy that is normal seen by the likes of force India/sauber.