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Sebastian Vettel has easily won today's Bahrain Grand Prix in utterly dominant fashion. After Alonso dropped back due to a DRS failure, nobody else was there to threaten him. Raikkonen, starting from 8th finished in second place, joined on the podium by his Lotus teammate Romain Grosjean.
I would say a slight negative for Ferrari as well because it seemed like they enjoyed the biggest jump on 1 lap pace between the tyre compounds in Chinadiemaster wrote:not only mercedes.
Good news for rbr,ferrari and mercedes. Bad news for lotus.
I'm actually seriously disappointed. While Qually was a bit dull, the tyre choice in china made for an excellent race, and frankly, I'd rather an exciting race than an exciting Qually.gray41 wrote:Changed to Medium and Hard.
I sympathise for your loss mate. Personally I rather enjoy the prospect of the races being done on Everlast rubber.beelsebob wrote:I'm actually seriously disappointed. While Qually was a bit dull, the tyre choice in china made for an excellent race, and frankly, I'd rather an exciting race than an exciting Qually.gray41 wrote:Changed to Medium and Hard.
It's kinda ironic, I see this being great for Hamilton (who I'm sure you noticed I rather like), but I'd still rather see an race in which a driver chases down 15 seconds in 5 laps due to a different strategy, and in which we still don't know who's going to beat who as they drive through the final corner.raymondu999 wrote:I sympathise for your loss mate. Personally I rather enjoy the prospect of the races being done on Everlast rubber.beelsebob wrote:I'm actually seriously disappointed. While Qually was a bit dull, the tyre choice in china made for an excellent race, and frankly, I'd rather an exciting race than an exciting Qually.gray41 wrote:Changed to Medium and Hard.
That is the wrong way to compare the speed of two cars in different strategies. Firstly Alonso did only 10 laps in his first medium stint to jump Vettel, while for Raikkonen all fall in place since Vettel block the Ferraris for 20 laps and Raikkonen was in touch with them when he should had a 10-15 sec gap to them. In pure speed Ferrari was faster but Raikkonen / Lotus was a little bit better than Alonso / Ferrari in tyre management not too much but a little bit better...and the race fall all in favor to Raikkonen which deserved to win but Ferrari was the fastest car admitted also by Ross Brawn.In conclusion - Alonso on tyres 8 laps younger, was an *entire* 0.014s faster. Considering the tyre ages, I'd have to say they *weren't* the fastest in Melbourne.
In my opinion this quote is partially wrong, i would have said :There isn't any type of data or any type of logical connection to suggest Ferrari will win Bahrain in normal conditions
Sorry to repeat but we don't have yet useful data for hot tracks, sunday afternoon we will know more and we can made some conclusions.Interestingly - those two teams have generally performed better in the two cold races this year (rather than the hot race)
As above mentioned i wrote "China" for "China" and in the second quote "china" for "China" so this means that it was an error and not something did on purpose(in case you have taken like this). The fact that it was a grammatical error (and not something against country or whatever) there was no need to remind me of that...Nomore wrote:With what we saw in China, Ferrari is the favorite to win the race.
In china it was simple, Ferrari was the fastest car.
Agreed. Though it is of course "China" and not "china."
Based on what, exactly? No offense - but I doubt your "knowledge" would have said Pastor Maldonado to be the winner of the Spanish Grand Prix either. What we do know is that the RBR completed the dry portion of the Malaysian GP the quickest.Nomore wrote:We dont know the exact answer, but what i have seen till know and my knowledges says no, probably Rosberg would had got Pole and Alonso(or Raikkonen ) would had won the race in dry conditions.
Agreed.To says a car is good in this type of conditions or in this types of circuits first we have to build a database with some races (at least 8-9 normal races) and then we can make conclusions
No disrespect intended, but d'oh.The temp in Bahrain maybe different from China (which was hotter than predicted) but the results may be the same.
they do. Unfortunately the similarities do not form the key laptime corners. Traction is not a key performance differentiator in China. Nor is braking. It is in Bahrain. High speed cornering, stability under extreme trail braking, are key characteristics in China, but not in Bahrain,As for the layout it's not too different from Shanghai, they have certain similarities...
Of course.and even the differences can suite very well Ferrari, like can suite other cars too.
irrelevant. Your assertion was that Ferrari was faster - not that Ferrari should have won. Very different. Nor do I believe the Ferrari was quick enough to produce such a gap - and not that the gap would have been enough to cover the 12s gap to Raikkonen, plus the overtake.That is the wrong way to compare the speed of two cars in different strategies. Firstly Alonso did only 10 laps in his first medium stint to jump Vettel, while for Raikkonen all fall in place since Vettel block the Ferraris for 20 laps and Raikkonen was in touch with them when he should had a 10-15 sec gap to them.
Demonstrated by Lotus banging faster laptimes on a strategy that should have produced slower laptimes?In pure speed Ferrari was faster
"Dry" does not equate to "normal," nor "relatable." Very different track surface (you could go to ChinaMelbourne and Bahrain, and the track surface even *feels* different to the human skin. Melbourne and China are very smooth - and Malaysia horridly abrasive. You could cut yourself just dragging a finger across the tarmac. Bhrain is somewhere in between.The normal sessions we had so far are the Race in Australia and the weekend (quali and race) in Shanghai.
For the dry? Hell agreed.The only Database that we can build for now is the weekend in China and race in Australia
Based on the data we have now - I don't think we can call anyone a favorite for Bahrain.Based on this Database, Ferrari ( followed by Lotus ) is the favorite for Bahrain in my opinion
Why not? If you've ever been to Malaysia - it's hot even when it rains. Almost comparable to summer in places like Milan.we don't have yet useful data for hot tracks
It means no such thing, approach will be exactly they same when it comes to pacing of lap times (principle of keeping tyres within optimal operating range, exactly the same one that started in 2011). Only some teams will not suffer as much. And yes they push 100%.Shrieker wrote:That means people can almost go balls to the wall which is most definitely better news than watching people drive to a target lap time...gray41 wrote: Changed to Medium and Hard.
How about Red Bull are pure hypocrites, lying weasels. Depending on a definition of pure hypocrites, lying weasels of course.I too expect RB to be quite strong, Lotus too. I think the two unknown's will be how Mercedes & Ferrari get on with the tyres. If they don't do so well I think it'll be a RB/Lotus show and it may be that anyway.raymondu999 wrote:For most intents and purposes, it's pretty much stop start. The fast corners are pretty much flat-out bits.
I expect the Red Bull to be more at home in the heat. As we saw - Red Bull were more competitive in hot Malaysia than in cold China/Melbourne. The slow corners should also see their exhaust effect more pronounced. Ferrari IMO are a bit of an enigma in the hot and we'll have to see how they fare. We've only ever seen Alonso lapping in the cold, thanks to his Malaysian retirement. Bahrain is quite a smooth circuit - which could help the McLaren in terms of helping them lock down their aero to its most benign position via stiff suspension.
I'm guessing blind on the option tyre as we haven't seen the soft in hot conditions - but I think it will be OOPP or OPPP for the win.
