2013 Bahrain GP - Sakhir

[Emerson.F]

I've been looking around on the internet for that interview and can't find one that includes the part where they go to Antony Davis showing the onboards and asking Jenson what he things of them, to which Jenson pretends he couldn't see the screen and couldn't hear the questions.

Haha that piece had me rolling, the piece of this interview before Jb came into the scene is also missing. There Withmarhs managed too mention Jb's name about eleven times before saying something positive about Checo.

[Neno]

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1.03-1.10

i agree, button clearly in joke say whitmarsh maked wrong decision in case perez to be agressive to point in which can hurt him , without consulting him as first driver and team leader.

[JimClarkFan]

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1.03-1.10

1:35 and on just made me puke. He keeps brabling about how great jensen is and that Checo needs too calm down. Jb got owned today and they feel the need too make it seem as if Checo is a trouble maker and Jb is the best thing since sliced bread.

Kind of annoyed by that, I thought Perez did a great job today, and Button is attempting to exploit his existing relationship with Macca to beat him down. I think Button should just get on with it, and as far as the wheel banging I agree with Brundle, I thought that was Button's fault at the time though have not seen the replay.

[IceIceBaby]

Lotus did one of better damage limitations race from qualifications, but they dont understand 7th place in qualy is limit for winning Grand Prix, not 8th or 11th I am still disapointed with them, because if it wasnt for shitty qualy they could take win in this race with same strategy...

Raikkonen is not a good qualifier, that's my conclusion after the 2012 season. Next race, Grosejan will outqualify him, like he was set to do this time, but the team messed it up.

First of you should consider different factors.Kimi and Romain have two different driving styles, kimi has a smooth driving style and very easy on the tires which explains why he can manage a two stop while Gro could not, Grosjean has an aggressive driving style similar to that of Vettel seeing from onboard and that could account for why Grosjean can get the tires to temperature fast in a single flying lap and Kimi has trouble with that,given the nature of the lotus to have a narrow window to work those tires to temp, same problem he had in his 2008 season. There were a few factors in Kimis 2012 season first it was his first time in those pirelli tires,Gro was a pirelli test driver in 2011.second he had power steering issues he wanted a more lighter and precise steering rack. Boullier even said that Kimi was not confident in the car qualifying wise. and yes the team did take a gamble on Grosjean on qualifying but it was the same thing they did last year with kimi and guess what it work out.

[Traction]

Not sure I agree that Ferrari would've won though. I don't think they had the pace to go with Vettel.

Yeah, that is all speculation. We have no way to know how fast Ferrari would have gone and we cannot know either how much Vettel had in hand. I suspect it was massive. At one point of the race he had 50 seconds on the two stoppers. I suspect he could have gone at least 30 s faster if he needed to.

Anyway you have to give credit to Alonso, he drove a very fine race to recover from 14th to 8th and could have ended P5 if not for Ferrari's wrong tactical decision to let him use the DRS button after the first forced stop. It must be depressing for Fred to see it all go potty. Now that he has a seriously fast car Ferrari serve him a string of unforced errors. Letting him go and not box on lap 1 in China was plain stupid and unsafe. We all sa how his left front wing pillar was completely snapped off. How on earth can you think the wing would have remained attached any longer. It was a small miracle it held almost a lap. So how hard must it be for the driver to have this kind of shitty decisions making in two consecutive races. I bet he lost something like 16 point all together not by the root problems he had but by the wrong tactical calls.

Might not know if Ferrari would have gained some pace later on with a lower fuel load, lower track temp or for any other reason but in the first lap Seb and RB showed Alonso and Ferrari exactly who was taking charge..

[sknguy]

IMO some perspective is missing. McLaren is fighting for every point here. The last thing they want, as a team, is to slow each other down by having two drivers battling each other agressively...

But for this race, 10 points for the team would've been better than the 8 points Perez had gotten. I'm not for or against either driver, just wish them both success.

But, reliability and safety issues aside, It's just my opinion that for optimal results it's best to release the quicker driver. I suppose it sounds simple but sometimes it seems to play out as not just case of managing safety and reliability, but also managing egos.

Really curious about Massa's two punctures for the same right-rear tire? Both apparently had sidewall cuts according to Pirelli in-race interview.

[zeph]

Really curious about Massa's two punctures for the same right-rear tire? Both apparently had sidewall cuts according to Pirelli in-race interview.

Indeed. Wasn't that what RBR was complaining about according to an AMuS article linked to a few pages back? They alleged that it put them at a greater disadvantage because their car has more downforce than the others...

[Juzh]

Really curious about Massa's two punctures for the same right-rear tire? Both apparently had sidewall cuts according to Pirelli in-race interview.

Indeed. Wasn't that what RBR was complaining about according to an AMuS article linked to a few pages back? They alleged that it put them at a greater disadvantage because their car has more downforce than the others...

RB9 on 2010 bridgestones would lap entire field (well, not really but you get the point).

[Unc1e_M0nty]

Fantastic race, even though the top spot was never really in doubt, some really great racing among the following pack, good quality driving too (even the Maccas - all was fair as far as I;m concerned), all that action and only a couple of minor coming togethers.

I feel the poor qually performance from Lotus and Ferrari's race problems gifted it to Red Bull a little, having said that I think Vettel managed the tyres very well, and to be honest, I was a little stunned at their race pace, i just didn't see that coming.

First Lotus dominate, then Ferrari, now Red Bull, I hope its like this all season !

[Jonnycraig]

I've been looking around on the internet for that interview and can't find one that includes the part where they go to Antony Davis showing the onboards and asking Jenson what he things of them, to which Jenson pretends he couldn't see the screen and couldn't hear the questions.

As pointed out in the Button thread:

(Davidson to Button)
Davidson: 'Lets see how your teammate overtook you'
Button: 'Are you racing? No, you're not racing..'

[Racer X]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22240236

I don't think Buttons going to let this one go I think simply he wants to be world champion for McLaren and he was entering (since the announcement that Hamilton was leaving) and the announcement thy a young driver was replacing Lewis that he would be in the same situation he was in when he became the number 1 driver for Brawn.
I think simply he's gong to try to "calm" Sergio Down however. Are they going to listen to him (McLaren) and effectively turn Sergio into the number 2 Driver. Also in that picture Buttton looks like a spoiled child who hasn't gotten his way and is now crying to his Momy to make it the other kid forcefully make Sergio give ('calm') Down and let Button be the number 1.

I'm guessing Button wanted Perez to drive behind him like Massa behind Alonso.

[Donuts]

Very intelligent comment.

Yer, the place is full of intelligent comments around here these days, isn't it?

My conclusion from last year, this year and GP2 is that Grosjean is not the racing driver everyone so sadly wants him to be - and that's based on years of watching him. I also conclude that because Mercedes seems to have the exact opposite tendency of the Lotus between qualifying and the race then Rosberg mustn't be a very good race driver.

Yep, very intelligent stuff.

Maybe you should have a look at qualifying (he should start with improving his laptimes between Q2 and Q3 then putting his best sector times in one single lap or at least two of them). I'm not saying that Grosjean is better, but probably.

It doesn't work like that. In Q3 you are looking after the tyres that you will carry into the race......you dunce. Grosjean is not going to blow Raikkonen away. Let's just face facts now.

I know why I don't spend much time around here.

What a childish manner. Don't be condesending. Am I to start calling you namnes? Ridiculus! Have a look at Q3 who else did'nt improve from Q2? Don't tell me, he did it on purpose so he would be P2 in the race?

[strad]

Quite frankly...F1 is about to lose a lifelong fan. Between the tires and DRS and 70% driving,,,I just can't . It's screwed up,,,it's downright embarrassing. I have to be ashamed and unable to promote this as the pinnacle of motor racing.

[iotar__]

RB9 on 2010 bridgestones would lap entire field (well, not really but you get the point).

No, it's a complete, utter and not very technical rubbish based on nothing. Even in theory completely irrelevant to any discussion about actual F1 season. What about RB without redirecting exhausts gasses, in a scenario in which FIA did their job last season? They and McLaren had mostly similar pace last season and not because of tyres favouring the latter (qualifying DRS advantage included). Explain that please. Funnily enough they were the most dominant on Pirellis in 2011.

Kind of annoyed by that, I thought Perez did a great job today, and Button is attempting to exploit his existing relationship with Macca to beat him down. I think Button should just get on with it, and as far as the wheel banging I agree with Brundle, I thought that was Button's fault at the time though have not seen the replay.

A bit of an overreaction, don't you think? It's just a silly TV interview and they both are playing along with this "be more aggressive" bit. I like and dislike Button at the same, if it's even possible. All in all McLaren are a bit to blame, when after poor start of the season they started pointing finger at Perez.

About DRS: Aren't they overdoing it? I understand they put two zones because of changes in qualifying (?) but I still think they didn't get it right yet this season.

[Clew]

VET doing close inspection of F138:
http://formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutton/2 ... rn2022.jpg

Looking for the traction control button

wrong car...SV should be looking at Schumy's old Benetton B194