Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
Jonnycraig
Jonnycraig
6
Joined: 12 Apr 2013, 20:48

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

gray41 wrote:I guess we'll see TATA appear somewhere on the car?
Karthikeyan FP1 in India? :wink:

User avatar
Vasconia
6
Joined: 30 Aug 2012, 10:45
Location: Basque Country

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

ringo wrote:I don't think the results would have been different. Lewis probably came to some kind of realization in that race, plus the handicap he was suffering after p3 disappeared. So we have to assume that Hamilton was performing at a his proper level when the glitch cleared up. We can't assume both cars were being driven in the same way.
In this case the race is easier for Lewis, he knows that tyre degration will be an issue so he drives in a calmer way and not fighting to much. Rosberg was in the front so he tried to defend his position putting more pressure on his tyres and consequently having more degradation.

Another clear example of this was Schumi´s race in Texas, though in that case degration was simply overwhelming.

Mika1
Mika1
3
Joined: 16 May 2012, 20:17

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Mercedes will have switched more than half its workforce on to its 2014 Formula 1 car by May, says the firm's motorsport boss Toto Wolff.
The boss follows me on twitter.

Pup
Pup
50
Joined: 08 May 2008, 17:45

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Looking more and more like Brawn is going to stick around. I wonder what that means for Lowe...

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/wolff-ro ... -team-boss
Ross Brawn looks likely to keep his job at Mercedes, contrary to earlier speculation he will be replaced by McLaren's Paddy Lowe. Former technical director Lowe is currently on McLaren 'gardening leave', amid the widespread paddock perception that he will arrive at Brackley in 2014.

But while earlier it was rumoured he would replace fellow Briton Brawn in the top Mercedes job, team director and co-owner Toto Wolff is now hinting strongly that the 58-year-old will stay.

Asked by F1's official website what 'most useful lesson' he has learned in his short time so far at Mercedes, Austrian Wolff answered: "To understand what it needs to make Ross function -- or how he functions."

Amid talk Brawn faces the axe, Mercedes newcomer Lewis Hamilton recently spoke out in support of his boss, insisting "I signed with him (Brawn) being here and I'm very happy working with him".

Wolff said: "I am not at all surprised. Everybody has the highest esteem for Ross and I would be completely mistaken were I to question Ross' technical skills -- someone who has won seven or eight titles.

"Who am I in this respect?" he added. "I have been in formula one for only three years. So I completely agree with every word Lewis said."

Of course, Wolff's comments leave open the door for a change of role for Brawn, with Lowe perhaps arriving to be team boss and Brawn staying in a purely technical capacity.

But Wolff insisted that Brawn is doing a good job as boss.

"(He is) extremely structured," he said. "Accurate. Focused on sustainable results and not on short-term optimisation. An excellent manager who gives his people room.

"Ross is team principal and I don't want to change that," added Wolff.

"We need to get stability in the team as we have a mountain of work to do. From where this team is coming it is important to have as many good people as possible -- that is my focus in all these discussions."

User avatar
turbof1
Moderator
Joined: 19 Jul 2012, 21:36
Location: MountDoom CFD Matrix

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Pup wrote:Looking more and more like Brawn is going to stick around. I wonder what that means for Lowe...

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/wolff-ro ... -team-boss
Ross Brawn looks likely to keep his job at Mercedes, contrary to earlier speculation he will be replaced by McLaren's Paddy Lowe. Former technical director Lowe is currently on McLaren 'gardening leave', amid the widespread paddock perception that he will arrive at Brackley in 2014.

But while earlier it was rumoured he would replace fellow Briton Brawn in the top Mercedes job, team director and co-owner Toto Wolff is now hinting strongly that the 58-year-old will stay.

Asked by F1's official website what 'most useful lesson' he has learned in his short time so far at Mercedes, Austrian Wolff answered: "To understand what it needs to make Ross function -- or how he functions."

Amid talk Brawn faces the axe, Mercedes newcomer Lewis Hamilton recently spoke out in support of his boss, insisting "I signed with him (Brawn) being here and I'm very happy working with him".

Wolff said: "I am not at all surprised. Everybody has the highest esteem for Ross and I would be completely mistaken were I to question Ross' technical skills -- someone who has won seven or eight titles.

"Who am I in this respect?" he added. "I have been in formula one for only three years. So I completely agree with every word Lewis said."

Of course, Wolff's comments leave open the door for a change of role for Brawn, with Lowe perhaps arriving to be team boss and Brawn staying in a purely technical capacity.

But Wolff insisted that Brawn is doing a good job as boss.

"(He is) extremely structured," he said. "Accurate. Focused on sustainable results and not on short-term optimisation. An excellent manager who gives his people room.

"Ross is team principal and I don't want to change that," added Wolff.

"We need to get stability in the team as we have a mountain of work to do. From where this team is coming it is important to have as many good people as possible -- that is my focus in all these discussions."
I don't see a conflict. Wolf stated Brawn is team principal; Lowe will fill in the role of technical director or a function alike.
#AeroFrodo

User avatar
Cocles
17
Joined: 02 Sep 2011, 13:27

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Then you're suggesting Lowe would replace Bell? I could see Bell as a permanent technical liaison between Brackley and Brixworth. That said, it's easier for me to see Lowe in a temporary role beneath Brawn until Brawn retires in 2016 or later.

Anon123
Anon123
1
Joined: 16 Feb 2013, 20:33

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Cocles wrote:Then you're suggesting Lowe would replace Bell? I could see Bell as a permanent technical liaison between Brackley and Brixworth. That said, it's easier for me to see Lowe in a temporary role beneath Brawn until Brawn retires in 2016 or later.
If Brawn leaves I think whoever out of all the big names at Mercedes would do the best job of being Team Principal will be assigned that role and if it isn't Paddy Lowe then he'll become TD. Having said that whenever we think Mercedes may be getting rid of people at the top they bring more in, when Haug left a lot of Mercedes fans thought it was a good thing and that Mercedes had "Too many cooks spoiling the broth" but since then Lowe and Wolff have been recruited.

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
559
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

It seems to me though, that they have a rolling technical director position to maximise the input of the TD into each year's car.
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

User avatar
Cocles
17
Joined: 02 Sep 2011, 13:27

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

n smikle wrote:It seems to me though, that they have a rolling technical director position to maximise the input of the TD into each year's car.
Not exactly, but I understand where you're coming from. Bob Bell has always been TD, but is focusing on engine integration at the moment, because it is so crucially important for the "works" teams. Geoff Willis is R&D while Costa handles current design.

Last year, Brawn mentioned that Willis was working on the W05 and Costa the W04. A lot of fans misread this thinking that the W05 would be all Willis, and the W04 all Costa. No, the projects actually get passed along with Willis always looking a year ahead and Costa handling the current model. Bell oversees both of them as TD.

User avatar
FoxHound
55
Joined: 23 Aug 2012, 16:50

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Interesting that Mercedes will be splitting their resources 50/50 from may.
Incredible given their competitiveness in 2013.
The prize is 2014. Risky business, especially given Hamiltons performances this year which are reminiscent of raikkonens last year. Consistent.
JET set

Mika1
Mika1
3
Joined: 16 May 2012, 20:17

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Wolff claims Brackley staff lack identity
29 April, 2013
Toto Wolff has warned that the staff at Mercedes’ Brackley headquarters are under pressure to keep their jobs and collectively lack identity.

Some of the team’s British staff have been on site since Craig Pollock founded BAR in 1998.

The team then became Honda, then Brawn GP, and now Austrians Wolff and Niki Lauda have arrived to shake up the team following its first three years as Mercedes.

Wolff said one of the problems has been the staff’s lack of “identity”.

“I am trying to have them breathe it again,” he told the Kolner Stadt-Anzeiger.

“There are those who will respond, and those who will not,” he said.

Wolff denied, however, that he is preparing to take a “terminator method” to his shakeup plans.

“I’m no terminator,” he smiled, “but I would be wrong if I did not express my opinions and then take a success-oriented approach to my actions.”
The boss follows me on twitter.

beelsebob
beelsebob
85
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 15:49
Location: Cupertino, California

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Oh dear, that's smelling a lot of "the beatings will continue until morale improves".

User avatar
Vasconia
6
Joined: 30 Aug 2012, 10:45
Location: Basque Country

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

FoxHound wrote:Interesting that Mercedes will be splitting their resources 50/50 from may.
Incredible given their competitiveness in 2013.
The prize is 2014. Risky business, especially given Hamiltons performances this year which are reminiscent of raikkonens last year. Consistent.
The question is if we are going to see another awful second half of the season in 2013 as it happened in 2012. I dont think Lewis and Nico are happy with this perspective.

The only hope is to have a great and very useful new package in Barcelona, a one which solves the tyre problems and then resist the rest of the season with some tiny updates. [-o<

Neno
Neno
-29
Joined: 31 May 2010, 01:41

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post

Yes and no, May is for 2 days, not everyone will split next month their resources :wtf: You can be sure in that, we are not even on half of season!!! I expect around Nurburgring and Budapest we will see last true updates, and shifting for next year cars. Beggining of July, then you have around 7-8 months to make car, if this is not enough time then you clearly dont belong in F1...specialy when teams already for couple of months are working on part of new car (picking up design to follow mostly). Dont let's forget that first true new engines will not be produced until August-September. Sorry i cant see how you can make good car without knowing characteristics, size, weight of new engines, or trying to fit and produce aerodynamic components around them. True work on new car begins in that time, so because of that
i cant buy Mercedes decision, specialy when they are LOADED with money :roll:

BMW did similar 2008. when Kubica was in contender for championship, let's not forget what happend next year car...
when they around Canada 2008 decided to cut their season...abnormal decision

User avatar
Cocles
17
Joined: 02 Sep 2011, 13:27

Re: Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 2013

Post