Ferrari F138

[Matt Somers]

Overhead comparison shows the difference in the length of the Sidepod / Exhaust

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ580u6CIAA4TxZ.jpg:large

It seems there are two aero concepts being tried at the moment, the conditioners are only a small part of the equation but hint what Massa's package is trying to exploit vs the Alonso's. Look at the bumps under the skin and the way the sidepods slope. There is a slight but noticeable difference.

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They are using the Curved Conditioner / Slat in order to overcome the additonal distance of the Sidepod, obviously trying to drop the plume further back and allow more air around into the coke bottle underneath the exhaust pod.

[bhall]

Overhead comparison shows the difference in the length of the Sidepod / Exhaust

When scaled and aligned by the cockpit openings, you can see there's no difference in the length of the sidepod. It just looks that way because the exhaust is farther back. Incidentally, the exhaust is also more inboard.



I see it as just a simple case of putting the exhaust closer to where the magic happens.

[turbof1]

Overhead comparison shows the difference in the length of the Sidepod / Exhaust

When scaled and aligned by the cockpit openings, you can see there's no difference in the length of the sidepod. It just looks that way because the exhaust is farther back. Incidentally, the exhaust is also more inboard.

http://i.imgur.com/6ndzCE0.jpg

I see it as just a simple case of putting the exhaust closer to where the magic happens.

Depending on your definition of sidepod, the bodywork around the exhaust can be counted as part of the sidepod.

[variante]

When scaled and aligned by the cockpit openings, you can see there's no difference in the length of the sidepod. It just looks that way because the exhaust is farther back. Incidentally, the exhaust is also more inboard.

The sidepod IS longer (and shaped quite differently). But, yes, the added lenght comes from the new exhaust position.

[turbof1]

When scaled and aligned by the cockpit openings, you can see there's no difference in the length of the sidepod. It just looks that way because the exhaust is farther back. Incidentally, the exhaust is also more inboard.

The sidepod IS longer (and shaped quite differently). But, yes, the added lenght comes from the new exhaust position.

They look more S-shaped compared to the former which is more downwards shaped.

[bhall]

Look again. The sidepods appear different (longer) because of the slightly different angles in which the pictures were taken and because the "flow conditioners" appear to extend the sidepods forward. Classic illusory stuff.



The reality is that the exhausts have been pushed back a little bit, and the sidepods have been ever-so-slightly re-contoured accordingly.

[turbof1]

They are not longer, but a bit bulkier for sure at the back. Notice the distance between the white logo on the floor and the 2 sidepods. You drawn the brown exhaust area too close to the centerline.

[f300v10]

As they reverted Massa's car to the 'standard' sidepod configuration in FP2, it doubt we will see the new solution again this weekend. Fry said some of the parts would have to wait for a more proper evaluation at upcoming races.

[variante]

Look again. The sidepods appear different (longer) because of the slightly different angles in which the pictures were taken and because the "flow conditioners" appear to extend the sidepods forward. Classic illusory stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/Dcj2vGw.jpg

The reality is that the exhausts have been pushed back a little bit, and the sidepods have been ever-so-slightly re-contoured accordingly.

Look better: in your photoshop you've put the exhaust way nearer to the car center line, which is not the case.

[Matt Somers]

Look again. The sidepods appear different (longer) because of the slightly different angles in which the pictures were taken and because the "flow conditioners" appear to extend the sidepods forward. Classic illusory stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/Dcj2vGw.jpg

The reality is that the exhausts have been pushed back a little bit, and the sidepods have been ever-so-slightly re-contoured accordingly.

Granted I'll give you the fact the Sidepod hasn't been lengthed what I should have clarified is the section that holds the exhaust has been lengthened and with this the exhaust channel/trough repositioned

[timbo]

The sidepods Massa tried look a bit more like what they were using in the first tests.

[Alonso Fan]

the sidepods on massa's car look longer because of the flow conditioner, but also because the santander logo is further back than on alonso's car.

they're both the same, although massa's exhaust is definately longer

[stefan_]

Spain 2013 - Friday (10.05.2013)

[shelly]

Spain 2013 - Friday (10.05.2013)

Flow vis on the F138

https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/163/ferafv3.jpg

Interesting detail: the thermal strip on the diffuser footplate - to check if the exhaust reach as far back as the designers want

[donskar]

In stefan's first photo above -- is the flow conditioner adjustable for AoA? See seam at base of mount.