Mercedes AMG F1 W04

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First time I saw it I thought it was for advertising videos. They are in Monaco afterall.
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http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/27701/ ... la)Formula 1
Mercedes cerca rigidezza nel cambio con due pelli
Non si modifica la scatola, ma solo la struttura in carbonio che sostiene le sospensioni

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lewishamilton90 wrote:http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/27701/ ... la)Formula 1
Mercedes cerca rigidezza nel cambio con due pelli
Non si modifica la scatola, ma solo la struttura in carbonio che sostiene le sospensioni
Already translated it
http://mercamgf1-fans.com/2013/05/24/me ... le-casing/

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marcush. wrote:so it´s more likely it´s a minature Thermographic camera we might see here -sort of mikrobolometer sensor array with an optical lens in front giving real time surface temperature pictures
Quite.
You can't really use a photodetector for the temperature range involved, because you need a long enough wavelength to be usable and then you'd need to cool the detector to ridiculous levels. A midwave (3-5um) photodetector will be running 70-90 Kelvin and the camera will be around the size of a small shoe-box; it's not going to fit on a wing. The longer the wavelength, the lower the energy of the photons, and the more the signal will be overwhelmed by the thermal vibrations of the atoms in the detector material. Hence, you try to lower the thermal noise by cooling the detector. It does make for some pretty fancy cameras though. For example: a shortwave (0.9-1.7um) detector, cooled with liquid nitrogen, integrating 30 minutes for a single image to detect fabrication faults in integrated circuits.

Luckily, you can go to 8-13um and run an uncooled microbolometer in that range. It doesn't count incoming photons, but allows the incoming radiation to heat the pixels. The change in temperature changes the resistance of the pixel, which is then measured. The thermal calibration becomes a little trickier, because you need to compensate for the current temperature of the detector (and, ideally, the lens and any filters too). Running a current through the pixel to measure the resistance will also cause it to self-heat, so your detector will see the scene -and- itself. Both the dynamic range and the level of the readout will vary, but it's not rocket science to handle.
In addition, you'll be somewhat limited in framerate (say 50 to 100fps) because of the thermal time constant of the pixels. The pixels need some time to react to a change in incoming radiation. You could read them out faster, but you won't be getting any extra information, just using more power.

This is, of course, assuming it's a thermal camera at all :).

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electrical contractors use these things at work.. No big deal.. the camera can fit.
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Monaco 2013 - Friday (24.05.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
lewishamilton90 wrote:http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/27701/ ... la)Formula 1
Mercedes cerca rigidezza nel cambio con due pelli
Non si modifica la scatola, ma solo la struttura in carbonio che sostiene le sospensioni
Already translated it
http://mercamgf1-fans.com/2013/05/24/me ... le-casing/

I read some weeks ago an interview to Jo Bauer on blogf1.it, in which he said that there is one team that this year has completely changed their rear crash structure - but it took them 15 failed crash tests in winter to pass.
They were so late on schedule that they were forced to start 2013 winter testing with 2012 rear end.

I have not found any info to cross check, but could this team be mercedes? In their first outing the coke bottle seemed wider and "provisional"
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ah thanks Shelly.. if you can find it, please let me know..

want to reference it on the article

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Here is the link:

http://www.blogf1.it/2013/04/26/limport ... nt-page-1/

the guy being interviewed is Whiting, not Bauer, anyway
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Monaco 2013 - Saturday (25.05.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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So Mercedes have indeed built a race winning car, good for them, car was great in Monaco.
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SilverArrow10 wrote:So Mercedes have indeed built a race winning car, good for them, car was great in Monaco.
No they have a built a qualifying car

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No, they have built a Formula One car. It has advantages and disadvantages.

This forum can be a little too technical sometimes.

Also (just to inject some subjectiveness) they have have spent A LOT of money ;) So they deserve a win.

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Huntresa wrote: No they have a built a qualifying car
The car has very good qualifying pace, good race pace when the tyres are running cool but terrible race pace when the track is generating a lot of heat into the tyres. This is a good race car at certain circuits, I imagine they'll back up this result with a decent one in Canada because the tyres should stay cool there.

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So you ppl think they solved their tyre issues just like that in 2 weeks when they havent been able to do it in over almost 3 years?