2013 Monaco Grand Prix

[i70q7m7ghw]

Perez Vs Raikkonen was a racing incident, very difficult to assign blame to either driver. Perez's move was very risky, Kimi was clearly already moving across before Perez was even alongside, but Perez was already fully committed. From my perspective all I saw was Perez driving in to a closing wedge, but you might argue that Kimi could have reacted to Perez's late braking and taken to the run off, like other drivers had done.

One thing is clear, most of the drivers are agreed on their opinions of Perez's driving. Pretty much since China none of the top drivers have had a good thing to say about him. Jenson was really the only driver that said "Perez did a good move", probably because that was the only time (the second move later in the race) he managed it cleanly.

[Richard]

Racing incident, guys. Just let it go.

Wait until they start to analyse Perez's move on Kimi frame by frame. That will be fun.

Fear not, my finger is hovering over the lock button ....

[turbof1]

Racing incident, guys. Just let it go.

Wait until they start to analyse Perez's move on Kimi frame by frame. That will be fun.

Fear not, my finger is hovering over the lock button ....

IMO, we can keep discussing it, but after so many pages I do not think either party will get to prove who is in the wrong. Now it has become tedious because of how deep we want to discuss individual frames and moments.

If anything deserved 10+ pages, it was the maldonado-chilton accident.

[WhiteBlue]

If anything deserved 10+ pages, it was the maldonado-chilton accident.

Good point. I never saw a longer piece of video about that accident. Only the final evolution. It appeared to me that Chilton simply did not give enough space for Maldonado. Maldonado was reluctant to drive any nearer to the barrier and when Chilton gave not enough room the wheels interlocked and launched Maldonado's car.

[CMSMJ1]

What a load of yin yang crap.

Perez was a touch unruly and Kimi decided to close the door ever so slightly.. = contact

Perez might have hit him anyways but it matters not - the space was denied, with intent and on purpose.

Nothing too wrong with it - Kimi did not leave enough room, Perez was not in full control = racing incident

We all have arseholes..and opinions too - let's stop forcing them at each other (arseholes and opinions both)



Apart from that..not a good race was it?

[yugin]

Apart from that..not a good race was it?

Not at all. James Allen likened it to a cycling race! But really, the way that the drivers were coasting into Sainte Devote and the Nouvelle chicance as well as through the swimming pool complex in particular was painful to watch, and you'd honestly think they'd been told to push on their in-lap back to the pits after a qualifying run.

[marcush.]

Finally the long awaited win for MGP this year -unfortunatelly instantly devaluated by the Prelligate news -how can a team let this happen to their reputation..Even if it´s not been any help it still was rather obvious all competitors will cry in public ,especially after that turnaround since the last race....

[turbof1]

Wow, If only kimi and checo would have been able to see what rampage it caused in this topic, they surely would have avoided collision.

The discussion is stuck, there isn't any more news about it (other then kimi's advice to punch checo in the face), so it really isn't going to lead to something productive. Let's move on.

More interesting I found was that the tyre wall maldonado got pummeled in, got loose by the impact and swung right into Bianchi's car. Aren't those barriers to be sufficient fastened to avoid such things?

[Richard]

Racing incident, guys. Just let it go.

Wait until they start to analyse Perez's move on Kimi frame by frame. That will be fun.

They did. It's gone.

What a load of yin yang crap.

A lot of it has mysteriously vanished! How strange.

Now lets get back to sanity, no more Kimi v Checo please.

[Cam]

Actually, if it wasn't for those drivers either making an effort to pass or an effort to not get out of the way - it would have been a long slow train from lap one to the flag. I actually nodded off and missed that Perez attempt - that's how thrilled I was.

Seeing cars smash up from lack of skill simply isn't as exciting as seeing 2 drivers attack/defend lap after lap on pure skill... just waiting for the mistake, just waiting to see if the lead driver can hold him off, the tension, the suspense, the sheer admiration of 100% car and concentration pushed beyond where it should be possible. I'm alone in this feeling... I know... you all want the 'show'....

Hearing "leave a 2 second gap to the car in front"and witnessing the gaps appear, turned me off. We've all been robbed of ever seeing a Mansell/Senna again. Enjoy your the show you wanted - and got.

[foxmulder_ms]

Luckily someone uploaded this.

http://youtu.be/CzzG3RyrDTo

Eventhough he was on fresh tires, it was still marvelous to watch those super-clean overtakes.

Awesome. =D> He is going to win this year. That is my prophecy

[Cam]

Luckily someone uploaded this.
http://youtu.be/CzzG3RyrDTo
Eventhough he was on fresh tires, it was still marvelous to watch those super-clean overtakes.

Awesome. =D> He is going to win this year. That is my prophecy

Being let past and overtaking back/mid field teams - isn't marvellous, it's a given. He's in a top car. You can't rate those - it's akin to a DRS overtake.

[iotar__]

Luckily someone uploaded this.

http://youtu.be/CzzG3RyrDTo

Eventhough he was on fresh tires, it was still marvelous to watch those super-clean overtakes.

Being 4 seconds faster helps, other drivers were on shot tyres. Bottas let thim pass which was the only thing that allowed Hulkenberg move.

The only place you should be excited about it is youtube comments section. At least Perez made legitimate pass on a driver on the same strategy. So did Sutil (well Alonso made a mistake).

[jamsbong]

Being let past and overtaking back/mid field teams - isn't marvellous, it's a given. He's in a top car. You can't rate those - it's akin to a DRS overtake.

Just to be clear, he was NOT lapping backmarkers. He was fighting for each and every position he overtook including Hulkenberg's who end up loosing the only point left on the race. Also, bare in mind, Monaco is an un-overtake-able circuit which is why there were traffic jams throughout the race. After all, Merc stayed ahead despite being 2 seconds slower throughout.
So, I am impressed that in a couple of laps he took so many places. You guys don't have to agree with me, which is fine.

[Cam]

Who said anything about backmarkers? He's in a top car, on fresh rubber, overtaking a Williams, who didn't fight at all, and Sauber. Both of which are less than competitive. No one is disputing the overtakes, I'm disputing they were awesome.