2013 Canadian GP - Montreal

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My understanding is that the top teams are reluctant to do Pirelli's testing work for them, as the current "no testing" rules require them to use all 3 practice sessions to the maximum to prepare for the race at hand. I will be interested in seeing how many sets of these development tires actually get used. :?
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Canada isn't the most difficult circuit concerning set up. Trying out the new tyres should be doable.
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I think time itself will be the limitation. Teams will be doing long runs in FP and seeing if a one-stopper is viable or if a two stop is quicker. Given that it is a raceable circuit and a short pitlane, it will be crucial to start the race committed to your strategy, be it a one-stop or a two-stop.

This is going to be a timekiller IMO - and that will limit the running on the new tyres.
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raymondu999 wrote:I think time itself will be the limitation. Teams will be doing long runs in FP and seeing if a one-stopper is viable or if a two stop is quicker. Given that it is a raceable circuit and a short pitlane, it will be crucial to start the race committed to your strategy, be it a one-stop or a two-stop.

This is going to be a timekiller IMO - and that will limit the running on the new tyres.
Could the teams not split strategy - one driver test for the race, the other test the new tyres? You'd think they could almost transpose a setup from one car to another fairly closely after all the experience they have (this may not work for new drivers though admittedly).
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Cam wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:I think time itself will be the limitation. Teams will be doing long runs in FP and seeing if a one-stopper is viable or if a two stop is quicker. Given that it is a raceable circuit and a short pitlane, it will be crucial to start the race committed to your strategy, be it a one-stop or a two-stop.

This is going to be a timekiller IMO - and that will limit the running on the new tyres.
Could the teams not split strategy - one driver test for the race, the other test the new tyres? You'd think they could almost transpose a setup from one car to another fairly closely after all the experience they have (this may not work for new drivers though admittedly).
I think it'll be pretty vital for everyone to test these tyres. Absolutely everyone has some kind of agenda to ensure the tyres conform to, so everyone will want maximum data.

They've got time in 2 and 3 to continue to assess strategy, but I'm fairly convinced that we'll see most go for 2 with only lotus or someone out of position doing one stop. I'd say merc and RB could consider if an additional stop is worth their while, but I don't think they'll go for it.

I think an aggressive - I.e. able to push fairly hard - two stop will give Alonso a China/Spain style race pace advantage.

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bdr529 wrote:
godlameroso wrote: It's only hard to predict the weather around there when the jet stream does "funny" things,
Not to sound like an ass, but living here for 47 years I can attest that's pretty much everyday,
This is what we got yesterday, and 4 days ago they had no clue, that boat ramp should be a 6 lane highway
like I said the weather can be crazy around the Great Lakes this time of the year
http://s.theweathernetwork.com//thumb?s ... e=0&crop=0
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Anyway it seems to be a wet weekend, maybe rain during FP 2 or qualifying and there will be intermittent rain during race day, although I have no way of knowing if it will be heavy or not, but it doesn't look like it'll be very heavy hopefully not heavy enough to red flag it.
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as posted earlier in the wrong thread:

torrential rain predicted for race weekend :|
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FrukostScones wrote:as posted earlier in the wrong thread:

torrential rain predicted for race weekend :|
Really?
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Note – we're still a week out, even the best forecasts will be crap.

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beelsebob wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:as posted earlier in the wrong thread:

torrential rain predicted for race weekend :|
Really?
http://f.cl.ly/items/420Z251u1n3n3d0j3p ... .47.13.png

Note – we're still a week out, even the best forecasts will be crap.
I don't know where you get your inaccurate forecasts from, enjoy your flight :mrgreen:
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yr.no is the best weather site i have come across.
But as Beelse said, it´s way to early to make any accurate statements on weather.


Edit: and to reply to the post below, what country the weather site originates from does not matter.
They don´t lick their finger and put it up in the air locally when determining weather ;)
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For those that want to keep track of the weather this is the best site here in Canada http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weathe ... c/montreal

this is what they say as of Friday at 11am
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SectorOne wrote:yr.no is the best weather site i have come across.
But as Beelse said, it´s way to early to make any accurate statements on weather.


Edit: and to reply to the post below, what country the weather site originates from does not matter.
They don´t lick their finger and put it up in the air locally when determining weather ;)
They might as well, even something as official as NOAA uses pressure maps, previous weather history, and the jet stream to design their weather models. It's precise guessing but guessing non-the less.
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Accuweather predicted quiet rightly one month in advance what it was going to happen in Montecarlo and south of france during race weekend as I was visiting the area and I checked.

I don't know if it was coincidence but this is the forecast for the montreal weekend race

http://www.accuweather.com/en/ca/montre ... 6186?day=6

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And the fact that two different reputable weather sites give completely different answers tells us exactly how easy it is to predict weather a week away in temperate climates. Wait until thursday, then they might have a decent idea.

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Assuming a dry race, i actually think we might see some drivers go for a 3 stop race this year, depending on safety car timing (surely we'll get at least one as per usual?!).