A track marshal who got severely injured yesterday immediately after the race has succumbed to his injuries at the Montreal hospital. The man had been marshaling at the last 10 Grand Prix. He was 38 year old.
Very sad to hear that.WhiteBlue wrote:A tragic accident with the marshal! So sad! What a shame that he lost his life in an attempt to make things safer for the drivers. I actually thought they would call a safety car to make it safer for the guys working on the stricken car in that corner. They are under much time pressure and it appears that someone made a mistake. I hope they investigate all aspects and make sure it cannot happen again.
it was actually 2011timbo wrote:Very sad to hear that.WhiteBlue wrote:A tragic accident with the marshal! So sad! What a shame that he lost his life in an attempt to make things safer for the drivers. I actually thought they would call a safety car to make it safer for the guys working on the stricken car in that corner. They are under much time pressure and it appears that someone made a mistake. I hope they investigate all aspects and make sure it cannot happen again.
I too think there should be investigation. I think the marshals do not receive enough training and are poorly organized. Remember 2010(?) when a driver fell over almost in front of Kobayashi?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nF0_HWrAho[/youtube]timbo wrote:Very sad to hear that.WhiteBlue wrote:A tragic accident with the marshal! So sad! What a shame that he lost his life in an attempt to make things safer for the drivers. I actually thought they would call a safety car to make it safer for the guys working on the stricken car in that corner. They are under much time pressure and it appears that someone made a mistake. I hope they investigate all aspects and make sure it cannot happen again.
I too think there should be investigation. I think the marshals do not receive enough training and are poorly organized. Remember 2010(?) when a driver fell over almost in front of Kobayashi?
Thanks for the vids. And when you think that marshals in Canada probably (and most certainly in Malaysia) don't have much practice, there seems to be a trend or better say conditions that would likely compromise overall safety. I think that FIA/FOM need to look at it. Especially because the geography of F1 events is constantly growing and GPs appearing in countries with very little tradition in motorsport.stefan_ wrote:I don't know if the marshalls go through training or just a debrief before a race weekend though.
I don't think that this tragic accident had anything to do with training. The poor chap dropped his radio and bent down to pick it up. The driver of the crane did not see him and would not expect anybody to be stopped directly behind the vehicle. Health and Safety will no doubt investigate.timbo wrote:Very sad to hear that.WhiteBlue wrote:A tragic accident with the marshal! So sad! What a shame that he lost his life in an attempt to make things safer for the drivers. I actually thought they would call a safety car to make it safer for the guys working on the stricken car in that corner. They are under much time pressure and it appears that someone made a mistake. I hope they investigate all aspects and make sure it cannot happen again.
I too think there should be investigation. I think the marshals do not receive enough training and are poorly organized. Remember 2010(?) when a driver fell over almost in front of Kobayashi?
Well, if one looks at the majority of accidents they are indeed caused by a chain of unforceen random events. However it does not mean that there's no way to manage the risks.gilgen wrote:I don't think that this tragic accident had anything to do with training. The poor chap dropped his radio and bent down to pick it up. The driver of the crane did not see him and would not expect anybody to be stopped directly behind the vehicle. Health and Safety will no doubt investigate.
I heard this too and agreed at the time. there were only 4 laps left.nash929 wrote:Martin Brundle even mentioned that they could leave Esteban's car at that point since it wasn't really in a precarious position
I know Its easy to think that because were under snow for most of the year that they must not know what they are doing.timbo wrote:Thanks for the vids. And when you think that marshals in Canada probably (and most certainly in Malaysia) don't have much practice, there seems to be a trend or better say conditions that would likely compromise overall safety. I think that FIA/FOM need to look at it. Especially because the geography of F1 events is constantly growing and GPs appearing in countries with very little tradition in motorsport.stefan_ wrote:I don't know if the marshalls go through training or just a debrief before a race weekend though.
It is hard to make Bernie use his money, but it is only fair if FOM organizes and finances training for marshals.
Yes, I know it may be cynical, but it's one of those things. A series of events that go in the wrong direction, all result in a tragedy and there's not much more you can do in the future to change things. Even if they will go into even more training, such things can happen again and as a race marshall you know what you're getting in to - it's a risk that you are aware of and assume when you sign up for the job.bdr529 wrote:I know Its easy to think that because were under snow for most of the year that they must not know what they are doing.timbo wrote:Thanks for the vids. And when you think that marshals in Canada probably (and most certainly in Malaysia) don't have much practice, there seems to be a trend or better say conditions that would likely compromise overall safety. I think that FIA/FOM need to look at it. Especially because the geography of F1 events is constantly growing and GPs appearing in countries with very little tradition in motorsport.stefan_ wrote:I don't know if the marshalls go through training or just a debrief before a race weekend though.
It is hard to make Bernie use his money, but it is only fair if FOM organizes and finances training for marshals.
I can assure you that they are well trained, the Marshals for the F1 race in Montreal come from all over Canada and the US
As a safety officer for a construction company I find this accident very disturbing. and would urge people not to jump to any conclusions on what happened and what could have prevented this, from my experience it is rarely a single mistake by anyone person, but rather a series of a small brake downs in procedures that led to this sad outcome.
WhiteBlue wrote:A tragic accident with the marshal! So sad! What a shame that he lost his life in an attempt to make things safer for the drivers. I actually thought they would call a safety car to make it safer for the guys working on the stricken car in that corner. They are under much time pressure and it appears that someone made a mistake. I hope they investigate all aspects and make sure it cannot happen again.
