Formula E

[flynfrog]

I have been trying to get Monaco to allow me to dig up the road circuit and instal induction coils etc.
The result would be electric racing without the need for ANY batteries.

Such projects in major cities could not only result in electric racing with no need to re-charge but if extended, it could be used as the basis of a pollution free and cost effective City transport infra structure.

But then what do I know?
It wont sell any oil of course.

I am having more success raising money for a special needs children's school in the UK if anyones interested.

Technical questions what are the inefficiencies with induction charging I honestly don't know. Does the moving car effect the effencies of the charge I have seen bust stop systems but the bus has to park over it to work. Where do you get pollution free cost effective electricity.

[Tommy Cookers]

I have been trying to get Monaco to allow me to dig up the road circuit and instal induction coils etc.
The result would be electric racing without the need for ANY batteries.
Such projects in major cities could not only result in electric racing with no need to re-charge but if extended, it could be used as the basis of a pollution free and cost effective City transport infra structure.

it won't work (except maybe on the planet Zoggo)
or can you do something that Nicola Tesla couldn't do in 30 years ?
that the later Project Tesla couldn't do

[Tommy Cookers]

Where do you get pollution free cost effective electricity.

not in the UK for sure
our Parliamentary Select Commitee has just rejected the latest submission for a Severn Estuary Tidal Power scheme
redesigned around the previous tranche of officialdom's objections
that would predictably and reliably provide 5% of all UK electricity
but rejected because some seabirds would lose some of their favourite mud (like the UK has a seabird/mud shortage ?)

it's the best tidal energy site in the world (after Passamoquaddy in Canada)
a scheme was designed and tested 30 years ago (because oil was expensive and would run out by 2000 or so)

[BoomBoom]

Bluebird launches bid to be second Formula E manufacturer

It plans to produce a car by September as part of its ‘vision’ for Formula E. Despite Formula E Holdings announcing that 2014 will be a level playing field with all cars built by the Dallara/Renault/Spark Racing Technologies/McLaren consortium, Bluebird has been encouraged by the FIA to continue developing its car and may still grant approval for a multi manufacturer series from the first year.

[Huntresa]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/27/dray ... at-204mph/

[zonk]

Possibly pertinent here:

http://images.gizmag.com/hero/draysonracing.jpg

When Drayson Racing Technologies and Lola Cars introduced the B12 69/EV last year, the electric race car promised to be one of the fastest of its kind. Six months later, it set a record at the Goodwood Hillclimb, and it's now gunning for an even bigger record. Drayson announced this week that it plans to make an attempt at an FIA electric land speed record within a month. It will try to best the 175 mph (282 km/h) mark that was set back in 1974.

Company founder Lord Paul Drayson will attempt to drive a special low-drag version of the B12 69/EV into the FIA record books on June 25. His target will be the FIA World Electric Land Speed Record, sub-1,000 kg (2,204 lb) division. The attempt will be made at the 1.86 mile (3 km) runway of the RAF Elvington airfield in Yorkshire, UK.

The current record of 175 mph was set by the Battery Box at the Bonneville Salt Flats amidst a total of four speed records in August 1974. Driven by Roger Hedlund, the 1,900 lb (862 kg) semi-streamliner used 28 lead acid batteries to power a GE forklift motor.

While electric vehicle technology has come a long way since Hedlund strung together 28 12 V batteries to power his record, Drayson says that this record has stood because of the difficulty of running such a lightweight electric vehicle consistently at high speeds. Hedlund's overall EV record was broken two decades later, but the Battery Box remains the record holder in its weight class.

"It is not the outright speed that is impressive about this record attempt, but the engineering challenge of accelerating a 1000 kg electric vehicle to such a high speed and sustaining that speed over a measured mile, before stopping safely all within a relatively short distance then turning round and doing it again within an hour," Lord Drayson explains. "It’s a tremendous technical challenge but we believe it’s about time someone moved this record on to demonstrate just how far EV technology has come.”

Because the B12 69/EV was designed to race around the track, not land speed record runs, Drayson is making a number of changes to the racer for its record attempt. Changes, including low-drag bodywork, a smaller 20 kWh battery pack and a detuned 600 bhp version of the 850 bhp drivetrain, are aimed at increasing traction, dropping about a 100 kg (220 lb) to put it under the 1,000 kg point, and giving the car the ability to accelerate to speed, maintain that speed and stop safely. Drayson will not transform the car into the streamliner configuration typical of a land speed record vehicle, however.

"The reason we are doing this is to showcase the maximum level of EV performance at the moment – and in a real racing car rather than a teardrop-shaped land speed record car," Drayson says. "We are also demonstrating the future potential of technologies like wireless charging in speeding the adoption of high performance EVs."

Via Gizmag.com

Drayson Racing Technologies has broken the world land speed record for a lightweight electric car.

Its Lola B12 69/EV vehicle hit a top speed of 204.2mph (328.6km/h) at a racetrack at RAF Elvington in Yorkshire.

Chief executive Lord Drayson, who drove the car to the record, told the BBC he was delighted to have set the world record in Britain and it shows "what the future potential of electric cars is."

[Huntresa]

Would it be possible to run an Electric Class at le Mans or have a fully electric car worked into the LMP1 regulations?

I mean i dont know how long this car go while driving at 320km/h, but if it can hold up a few hrs at a time wouldnt it be even if they went in and recharged 1 hr every 4 hr

[autogyro]

Would it be possible to run an Electric Class at le Mans or have a fully electric car worked into the LMP1 regulations?

I mean i dont know how long this car go while driving at 320km/h, but if it can hold up a few hrs at a time wouldnt it be even if they went in and recharged 1 hr every 4 hr

To satisfy those who continualy oppose electric cars and electric car racing, there remains a range issue.
The time it takes to recharge the onboard batteries prevents electric racers from competing sensibly in the present format set for races such as Le Mans.

Drayson Racing is working hard on induction charging in the paddock but this only reduces the charge times by about half.

Formula E which starts next year (and was a result of a paper I placed before the FIA in January 2010) will field teams with two cars per driver and the drivers will change at half distance.

In my original paper on electric racing I suggested replaceable battery packs in the side pods and I still see this as the best way to progress electric racing.
The cars would replace the batteries at tyre stops.

[aleks_ader]

I do some detail work on that and made special topic under Automotive news: LINK

[hollus]

Autogyro, I read somewhere, can't recall where (maybe here?) that the plan in Formula E is to swap cars the first year, but eventually move to changeable/rechargeable batteries for he second or third year.
It's quite clever, actually, the changing of cars will generate a lot of chatter, and many people will say "all cool, but they have to change cars, ha, ha!". Haters won't complain about much else, even if there will be much that is not optimal, specially the first year. Then, shortly after, the car swap will be gone and we will be left with the "cool" part.

[Pierce89]

Would it be possible to run an Electric Class at le Mans or have a fully electric car worked into the LMP1 regulations?

I mean i dont know how long this car go while driving at 320km/h, but if it can hold up a few hrs at a time wouldnt it be even if they went in and recharged 1 hr every 4 hr

To satisfy those who continualy oppose electric cars and electric car racing, there remains a range issue.
The time it takes to recharge the onboard batteries prevents electric racers from competing sensibly in the present format set for races such as Le Mans.

Drayson Racing is working hard on induction charging in the paddock but this only reduces the charge times by about half.

Formula E which starts next year (and was a result of a paper I placed before the FIA in January 2010) will field teams with two cars per driver and the drivers will change at half distance.

In my original paper on electric racing I suggested replaceable battery packs in the side pods and I still see this as the best way to progress electric racing.
The cars would replace the batteries at tyre stops.

Not to be an ass, but you don't think the FIA was looking at electric racing before 2010 ? I'm sure your paper was well written and informative, but to say Formula E was a result of your paper is ignoring the fact that the whole industry is gradually moving towards electrification. It also comes off as very egotistical. I know you're good at what you do, but sometimes I wonder what you could achieve if you weren't so full of pre-concieved notions and so opposed to any opinion that differs from yours.

Sorry, I got off topic. I'm so disappointed that they turned this into a spec series. Before that, it held so much potential to help the industry to move forward on electrification. Now, its electric Indycar.

[lizardfolk]

Now, its electric Indycar.

To be fair, I thought only the first year is going to be spec and they will be gradually moved into an open regulation series. I think the current chassis is going to be developed to become an eventual customer spec chassis while teams who want to have a much larger budget can develop their own cars?

[Pierce89]

Now, its electric Indycar.

To be fair, I thought only the first year is going to be spec and they will be gradually moved into an open regulation series. I think the current chassis is going to be developed to become an eventual customer spec chassis while teams who want to have a much larger budget can develop their own cars?

That's what I thought too, but Bluebird is having to lobby Formula E to get in and they still haven't been accepted. As a spec series, it will be worthless.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108286
Maybe, they'll be accepted and this series will start to fulfill its immense potential.

[autogyro]

Autogyro, I read somewhere, can't recall where (maybe here?) that the plan in Formula E is to swap cars the first year, but eventually move to changeable/rechargeable batteries for he second or third year.
It's quite clever, actually, the changing of cars will generate a lot of chatter, and many people will say "all cool, but they have to change cars, ha, ha!". Haters won't complain about much else, even if there will be much that is not optimal, specially the first year. Then, shortly after, the car swap will be gone and we will be left with the "cool" part.

Good point Hollus and dont forget the change car concept sells twice as many cars.

[autogyro]

it won't work (except maybe on the planet Zoggo)
or can you do something that Nicola Tesla couldn't do in 30 years ?
that the later Project Tesla couldn't do

Tesla did not have computers to play with pre WW2.
The model system works fine.