Ferrari F138

[max_speed]

ferrari have wasted so far the best start of any season in recent years. some costly errors from pitwall and some bad luck. pirelli have to be blamed a bit tyres choices they hv made are bit conservative and under pressure from bulls and mercs.
somehow i have started to feel alonso is not gonna be blessed with another title. i dnt know wht has happened to ferrari bt looks like end of championship for them (optimist fans nt gonna agree with me bt its gonna be reality).

You're and Optimist Right?

sometimes i start to feel tht alonso should have gone to red bull , he ws approached by them and considering the camaraderie he shares with webber he wud have added atleast 2 more world championships in his pocket but he choose ferrari and ferrari was close to best at that time but i dnt know wht has happened to them , series of disasters year by year, they have all resources, money, talented people i think they went bit complacent and you must congratulate redbull they r fiercely competitive.

i am sad to see alonso wasting his prime overtaking tier2 cars, my only wish from past few years has been to see alonso in car that qualifies just behind vettel throughout the year and see how vettel wins the WDC.at start of season i felt my wish will come true but now i have started to feel Alonso may never win another WDC, blame it down to luck a bit but i will for sure blame it on Ferrari.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Just to remind everyone that we are discussing the actual features of the car in this thread.
I failed to find good pictures (yet) - did any of the drivers run a modified beam wing? I think I've seen much more angled one.

[ebare]

The Ferrari wind tunnel obviously wasn't quite good enough when tiny aerodynamic details can make all the difference. It should have been more thoroughly addressed earlier but, as the difficulties McLaren are having demonstrate, the old Toyota one isn't perfect either. Hopefully the Maranello one will be state-of-the-art for 2014.

Odd, some argue that Toyota's Cologne wind tunnel is deemed to the be the second best in use by F1, right after Sauber's. Judging by the swiss team (lack of) form, it turns out to be difficult to blame the the wind tunnel.

If there are still correlation issues, after all this time and method change (supose they'd stop using their own to upgrading/recalibrate it), it will be hard to find one that suits them. Maybe if they try in Milton Keynes, Brakley or Woking,e.g., they find people ready to help them.

[CottrellGP]

Great Britain 2013 - Sunday (30.06.2013)

https://imageshack.com/scaled/large/109/fb8b.jpg

Is it just me or does the coanda look like it is a lot closer to the rear wheel?

[scuderiaF2012]

Great Britain 2013 - Sunday (30.06.2013)

https://imageshack.com/scaled/large/109/fb8b.jpg

Is it just me or does the coanda look like it is a lot closer to the rear wheel?

you're right, ferrari is using the longer exhaust that was tested and raced in Canada
let's just hope that next updates will actually make the car faster and be actual upgrades, NOT DOWNGRADES

[Pierce89]

Luca Di Montezemolo has done a very big mistake when he fired Kimi Raikkonen...

LOL!

[TheRMVR]

So according to this Swiss source -talking about the downfall and possible bankruptcy of Sauber- Ferrari use the wind tunnel in Hinwill instead of receiving cash for their engines from Sauber.

Are there any sources that confirm Ferrari using the Hinwill wind tunnel?

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/sport/motor ... y/27631243

[PABLOEING]

The last years from Canada.....Ferrari only have DOWNGRADES in the cars

[techF1LES]

I failed to find good pictures (yet) - did any of the drivers run a modified beam wing? I think I've seen much more angled one.

You're right Kiril, see the picture below. Upper one is new and IIRC, it was raced on both cars in SIlverstone.

[f300v10]

With the tires reverting to 2012 spec from Hungary on, its safe to say the advantage the F138 (and Lotus) have had thus far in terms of tire wear has become moot. More durable rubber will put more emphasis on outright pace, thus cementing Mercedes and RedBull at the front of the championship.

Given Ferrari has been unable to solve their lack of qualifying pace for the last 4 or more years, I don't expect any miracles on that front this year either. It would appear that the promising start shown by the F138 in 2013 will not lead to any titles.

[diffuser]

With the tires reverting to 2012 spec from Hungary on, its safe to say the advantage the F138 (and Lotus) have had thus far in terms of tire wear has become moot. More durable rubber will put more emphasis on outright pace, thus cementing Mercedes and RedBull at the front of the championship.

Given Ferrari has been unable to solve their lack of qualifying pace for the last 4 or more years, I don't expect any miracles on that front this year either. It would appear that the promising start shown by the F138 in 2013 will not lead to any titles.

With regards to 2012 tires...I haven't heard that. From what I can gather they're still trying to figure out what to do.

As far as how the 2012 tires will effect the different teams, you're just making assumptions.

I think the scariest issue in all of this is that both BOTH RBR and Merc have figured out how to make better use of the 2013 tires but that Lotus and Ferrari have NOT figured out how to deal with cooler temperatures!!!! RBR and Merc have turned the table on Ferrari and Lotus in that their getting better grip out of the tires across a larger range of track temperatures.

[radosav]

If this is true, would it be possible that Ferrari asks that all teams revert to 2011 tyres, so that everyone has to adapt!

[fcordova]

I do not know who will really have an advantage, if i recall correctly there are differences in dimension and construction on this year's tires to those in 2012. I think that having tires 2 yrs old (design wise) will be fair but who knows what type of racing we will get (bring the train!)

[stefan_]

Germany 2013 - Thursday (04.07.2013)

[enz0]

Germany 2013 - Thursday (04.07.2013)

Last Picture

Well that certainly looks new somehow

If it's an exhaust then it actually might touch the floor, or it's just the old one not yet fully hinged in