Quite a stupid question...

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Quite a stupid question...

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When and F1 car crashes sideways into the barriers(eg: Ralf's Monaco 2005 bang), can the impact be strong enough to crush the engine?
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yes, actually it can, remember shumy in free practice,brazil 2004?
i can't find the video, but the impact completely crushed the engine...

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Yes, I do agree, that is a pretty stupid question. So why are you asking it then?
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Can it damage internal parts of the engine too? :shock:
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G-Rock wrote:Yes, I do agree, that is a pretty stupid question. So why are you asking it then?
So if your not helping why did you post that.

What sort of impacted would it take to damage internals?
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He thinks it's a stupid one but that's the better way you can learn, reading and asking what you don't know. To avoid that just don't use stupid, incoherent, silly.... adjectives in post title.

Going to the engine, I remember narain crash in china 2005, i'm not sure if it was a side one but it may help to answer your question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtyAhPiXLfs

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It can be damaged but the engine and chassis are not connected as stiff as possible but to enable that engine brakes away from the chassis under heavy crash. It is of no importance if it is damaged or not since such crash already kills chances for any result.

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There was one year at Monza where John Watson crashed at the Lezmos and, probably with mild concussion, sat their trying to start the engine again, which he didn't know was in two peices on the other side of the racetrack. His carbon fibre tub didn't have a scratch, although the impact managed to split his gearbox and crankcase in half.
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So you guys mean there is a 50% chance that the impact can crush the engine? And 50% that the engine will not be crushed? I don't pay attention into crashes so I don't know much. :oops:
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It is enough that radiator leaks a bit duet to side impact or that exhaust manifold starts blowing a bit into sidepod and it will lead to overheating and death of engine.

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The exhaust gases are from the inside of an engine, assuming the outside is made of the same material, it should survive, no? Plus, if the engine stalls or has been switched off, the flow of exhausts stops so I don't think there's much potential for heat damage.

I'd say physical shock is the largest threat.

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Tom wrote:the impact managed to split his gearbox and crankcase in half.
In half?!?! Wow, he must have impacted on the wall at 100 km/h+ to split his gearbox and crankcase into half. :shock:
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There was a NASCAR crash a few years back involving Mike Harmon. He was at Bristol(best small track ever built) and he hit a small opening that was for emergency vehicle access to the track. The wall had that tiny little opening, and wouldn't you know it, he hit that very spot dead on. It split the car completely in half all the way to the rear end. He had not a single scratch on him. It was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJJZBBgje8

On the topic. Like manchild said, doesn't matter if you bend the crank or smash the piston, you aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

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Webber's 2003 Brazil crash tells me that it can be damaged.(albeit slightly on the bonnet) :roll:
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f1 cars dont have bonnets...and stop being a post whore again...for the third time
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