Kubica's Recovery

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netoperek
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Well, to be honest, I knew, Kubica have taken part in rallies outside of WRC2. And also, I agree that he had his share of incidents. Objectively, some of them really because of his mistakes, but not all. I knew about burned C4 and other crashes, too. I know Kubica is not totally unfamiliar with the sport, but You can't honestly say he had any meaningufl experience before this season!
I must admit I wasn't 100% sure so I checked it. You were right that RK drove his current RRC before Rally Portugal - for the first time in Rally Islas Canarias (the car was build just before that rally) and then in short Fafe rally.
I was not talking about the past though, as You were comenting on the present situation. My point was, he is hardly the liability for the team he represents now, and learned quite well to keep his cool by now, especially when it really counts. He is delivering the results and that was my main argument.
You know Kubica is not being paid for driving his DS3. He is contributing to a fair share of the costs. I would say, citroen is gaining much more than he costs them in mere media exposure he's making, but that's just my guess, as I don't know the numbers in that case. And why would that be wrong? It's a Win-Win situation for citroen and the sport IMHO.
I won't argue that in terms of talent density in WRC/WRC2, this is probably not a prime time for rallies... so point taken.
But You need not to forget about the certain rule in WRC2 and that the whole point of limiting the number of rallies in which driver can be classified for WRC2 championship was made to reduce the advantage of richer teams. So either listing the number of teams participating certain rally or discussing budgets, in my opinion is much less relevant in WRC2 case. Anyway it's not like he's driving the fastest and best prepared car in the series and its rather far from that, I think You can agree to that?

If I had to guess what's the hype about Kubica You mentioned, I would say its about the progress he is making, his very good pace just from the start on very often unfamiliar for him conditions and most of all, how fast he could adapt abd change his driving style from very precise driving on the limit in more less predictable enviroment of racing, where he spent most of his life, to the completely opposite conditions of rallying. And still is damn fast. I. for one. find it very impressive.

MadMatt
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I totally agree with all what you said! That's why I say that despite being fast, I reserve my judgment to when he will compete against the WRC boys. With that being said, it is often the case (as in running) that once you haven't started early enough, you can never catch up unless you have a magic gift.

But if he wins the WRC2. that will be a good sign that he's fast (when he stays on the road)!

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iotar__
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He did compete against WRC cars, not directly of course, but there were at least couple of stages in Germany that looked v. good, the one with 9 s (or sth like that) over Evans for example. As for reserving judgement - it applies to everyone, he's not healthy yet, not pushing 100%, learning different rallies, surfaces and craft overall.

About Rally of Poland - Kubica did it on purpose he didn't want to drive earlier (wasn't able to push etc.) but couldn't simply retire for marketing reasons :wink: , everyone else avoided stupid rock, nice. Pity because weather is better today and there is more competing, I think, as opposed to surviving.

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How many more years will it take for this man to get into an F1 car? Two seasons have passed. It is looking very dim.
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piast9
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Apparently when one of the Polish Rally fans shouted "See you in Melbourne next year!" Kubica answered "We'll see".

I don't know how much joke it was but maybe Kubica himself doesn't think it is impossible. Several months ago he said that it was no problem to drive F1 car in general but there were some circuits at which it would be difficult because of the lack of cockpit space / elbow mobility. Some time has passed already and his rallying is a good exercise for his rehabilitation.

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I know F1 is "the pinnacle" (at least image-wise) of motorsport, but DTM cars are now really advanced, as well as endurance machines, so I don't see why he couldn't go there and have fun. There is not only F1. He would be a good DTM driver I recon.

netoperek
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Just to update Robert's progress info - he just destroyed the whole WRC2 competition winning all 7 SS's in Rallye de France so far. By 4th SS, he already had 3 minute gap to Evans, and he voiced his disappointment that there's noone left to fight for 1st and he will have to manage the gap from now on. He also, as usual, answered all questions regarding his future giving as little information as he could. The most important, I think, is that he denied having contract talk with Lotus.

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Maybe he should enter WRC for the remaining events of 2013

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AnthonyG
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On the upside, I see the orange guy mirrored in the side windows, on the downside there's a large portion (bottom) of that car missing.
I'd say Photoshop.
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zonk
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Buaha ha ha. Car livery is mirror like. And the foto was made by Polish journalist Cezary Gutowski.

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iotar__
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8 km

1. 7 J. LATVALA 4:13.3 0.0 0.0
2. 11 T. NEUVILLE 4:14.3 +1.0 +1.0
3. 8 S. OGIER 4:14.3 0.0 +1.0
4. 10 D. SORDO 4:16.5 +2.2 +3.2
5. 9 A. MIKKELSEN 4:17.6 +1.1 +4.3
6. 4 M. OSTBERG 4:19.3 +1.7 +6.0
7. 5 E. NOVIKOV 4:19.8 +0.5 +6.5
8. 74 R. KUBICA 4:20.3 +0.5 +7.0
9. 2 M. HIRVONEN 4:21.7 +1.4 +8.4
10. 75 E. EVANS 4:27.7 +6.0 +14.4
15 km

1. 10 D. SORDO 8:36.7 0.0 0.0
2. 11 T. NEUVILLE 8:37.1 +0.4 +0.4
3. 9 A. MIKKELSEN 8:39.5 +2.4 +2.8
4. 8 S. OGIER 8:40.4 +0.9 +3.7
5. 5 E. NOVIKOV 8:43.9 +3.5 +7.2
6. 2 M. HIRVONEN 8:46.6 +2.7 +9.9
7. 7 J. LATVALA 8:47.0 +0.4 +10.3
8. 74 R. KUBICA 9:01.3 +14.3 +24.6
9. 75 E. EVANS 9:08.1 +6.8 +31.4

Second runs, selective but still nice.

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Bell published a gallery of Robert Kubica `s new Bell Helmet 2013 &2014 ...

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 319&type=1

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looks like an F1 helmet.

netoperek
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IIRC Bell produced helmets for Lotus, Sauber, Williams, Toro Rosso and Red Bull drivers... To which livery do You reckon this helmet fits most?