MotoGP 2013

[SectorOne]

(edit: Info below changed again after writing this post)

Race Direction has released the following rules for tomorrow’s race:
1. The race distance will be 26 laps (previously scheduled to be 27).
2. Every rider will be required to enter the pits and change to their second machine with fresh tyres at least once during the race.
3. No rider is permitted to make more than 14 laps on any one slick rear tyre. This means that a bike/tire change before lap 12 would require a second bike/tire change to finish the race
4. Riders using ‘Factory’ and ‘Satellite’ machines will be required to use the ‘hard’ option tire (B51DR). Extra quantity will be allocated by Bridgestone.
5. Riders using CRT machines will be required to use the CRT ‘hard’ option tyre (B50DR). Extra quantity will be allocated by Bridgestone.
6. The pit lane speed limit zone will be extended both on entry and exit and the exit route to rejoin the track will be marked by a white line in the runoff area; crossing this line whilst rejoining the track from pit lane will result in a penalty.

http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/r ... to-motogp/

[Huntresa]

Is this a joke ? I mean ppl complain about Pirelli in F1 but atleast they dont try to make tyres that last the entire race and fails

[Cold Fussion]

Absolute farce.

[n_anirudh]

Race reduced to 20 laps...with tire change at lap 10

marques getting a black flag for not pitting...that's a bit harsh...

swapping bikes is a bit ridiculous as was changing the pitlane entrywhich got Dani pedros to give up a place...

brief collision between marqes and lorenzo due to the speed difference..

[JimClarkFan]

What a stupid rule.

There will lots of complaints if Lorenzo wins the championship off the back of that.

MM didn't even gain an advantage.

[SectorOne]

Yea that was weird, especially Pedrosa having to get one spot back just because he failed pit entry.
You´d think a drive-through or something would be applied instead.
Imagine if someone is completely dominating, 40 seconds ahead, then does that.
Should he now wait an eternity for the second place guy and give one position? Makes no sense.

[turbof1]

Very, very harsh to disqualify MM. I can't help but feel the decision was made to spice the championship back up. It wasn't even his fault; the team made that decision (very stupid also to reason the way they did).

What do you guys think about the bump Lorenzo and Marquez had when the latter came out of the pits? My dad thinks Lorenzo was way too agressive, but I think Marquez just threw his bike right in front of Lorenzo, who was already committing to the corner.

[langwadt]

Very, very harsh to disqualify MM. I can't help but feel the decision was made to spice the championship back up. It wasn't even his fault; the team made that decision (very stupid also to reason the way they did).

I wonder what exactly the teams were told, "change machine at the end of lap 9 or 10" is hard to misunderstand.
something like "must not complete more than 10 laps" could be interpreted as going in on 11 would only be 10 complete laps

[Cold Fussion]

It should have been a mandatory change at a specified lap, to avoid confusion and more importantly to minimise the pit exist problems that we saw happen with MM and Lorenzo. The pit exist just isn't designed to have people feeding through safely.

[Huntresa]

Very, very harsh to disqualify MM. I can't help but feel the decision was made to spice the championship back up. It wasn't even his fault; the team made that decision (very stupid also to reason the way they did).

I wonder what exactly the teams were told, "change machine at the end of lap 9 or 10" is hard to misunderstand.
something like "must not complete more than 10 laps" could be interpreted as going in on 11 would only be 10 complete laps

It said from race control on the TV to the public that the last time for a bike change was at THE END OF lap 10, nothing hard to understand about that.

Edit: Reading that Honda believed he could come in at the end of the 11th lap cause he wouldnt have completed it sounds weird if they were told like the public was that it was THE END OF 9 or 10 you could change. Cause being told that can cause no confusion cause it says nothing about laps driven etc, just that you have 2 laps to come in. Someone at Honda or Race Control misunderstood or didnt explain properly.

Qoute from Dani Pedrosa, “We had to be clear about which lap to enter the pits, as it wasn't obvious which was lap nine and which was lap 10, and the pitlane was much longer than normal. It was all so strange today."

How can they be confused about what is which lap ? If the race is a 19 lap race, the last lap is the 19th, its not like you run 19th and then run full throttle one more lap, which is what they seem to think or sounds like they think

[SectorOne]

What do you guys think about the bump Lorenzo and Marquez had when the latter came out of the pits? My dad thinks Lorenzo was way too agressive, but I think Marquez just threw his bike right in front of Lorenzo, who was already committing to the corner.

I think it was both there, Lorenzo could have taken a tighter line, Marquez a wider line.
Lorenzo we know had to above all else, finish ahead of Marquez so him taking it easy and play second fiddle was never going to happen.

I´m more interested in the impact, that was quite the thump he received there.

[turbof1]

So Bridgestone apperently got a huge pile of criticism. Riders complained Bridgestone didn't put enough effort into the tyres to make full race distance on the new surface, and that the harder tyre was kind of worthless all year long. Even words like "Bridgestone damaged the sport" came up.

[JimClarkFan]

So Bridgestone apperently got a huge pile of criticism. Riders complained Bridgestone didn't put enough effort into the tyres to make full race distance on the new surface, and that the harder tyre was kind of worthless all year long. Even words like "Bridgestone damaged the sport" came up.

It has been a great season.

[Huntresa]

From my POV which is that this is the first year i rly follow MotoGP ive gotten the feeling that the nature of the relationship between the sport and Bridgestone is much better then that of for example F1 and Pirelli or am i wrong in this interpretation ?

I just get the feeling that its a closer relationship with the sport and the teams and that Bridgestone actually listens or atleast did upto a point.

I guess what i mean is that the relationship between Bridge and the sport feels less commercial then that of F1 and Pirelli, if that makes sense.

I might be totally wrong, maybe someone who has followed it for more then one year can answer.

[JimClarkFan]

From my POV which is that this is the first year i rly follow MotoGP ive gotten the feeling that the nature of the relationship between the sport and Bridgestone is much better then that of for example F1 and Pirelli or am i wrong in this interpretation ?

I just get the feeling that its a closer relationship with the sport and the teams and that Bridgestone actually listens or atleast did upto a point.

I guess what i mean is that the relationship between Bridge and the sport feels less commercial then that of F1 and Pirelli, if that makes sense.

I might be totally wrong, maybe someone who has followed it for more then one year can answer.

Honestly I don't know, this is the first time I have heard of tyre problems in MotoGP - well they have certainly spoke of wear and other things but there have been no major controversies like F1.

I think F1 management is to blame for the Pirelli problems. Pirelli design a tyre to the specification of Bernie and co. and they get such a bad rap for producing a tyre which is asked of them.

I just think the MotoGP management is more clear.