Driver styles/preferences

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Check out this oversteer-correction. Pretty good control and minimal oversteer angle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSR1mde6_1Y[/youtube]
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Yeah, looks spectacular. The frequency of the corrections is amazing, his power steering probably got some real sweat :)

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A snippet from a recent interview with Raikkonen re: his qualifying troubles of late.

""The car felt pretty strong all weekend and we've made good progress with it recently," added Räikkönen, who sits fourth in the Drivers' standings. "It's still not exactly as I want it and we're trying to get rid of some understeer which is something I don't like.

"In Japan it was hard to show our real pace at the beginning of the race as I was stuck behind slower cars. After the final pit-stop, when I got a bit of free air, the car was working much better. It ran well in the last half of the race and I was very happy with it.""

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3019 ... ualifying/

Hardly a surprise given his penchant for rally but I hadn't thought he was too bothered by understeer in the past. He seemed to have to run with armfuls of it in 2005 and that was one of his best seasons to date.

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I don't think the 05 Mclaren understeered in Raikkonen's hands, he was perfectly in tune with it.

Montoya was the one who didn't get along with the car to the point he finished the season on a "Jenson Button" like style, very different from his Williams days.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uystssmP5SA[/youtube]

Very measured under braking, just guiding the nose in.


I think Kimi struggled much more in Ferrari (even the 07 championship winning car) where control Bridgestones didn't give him the front bite he enjoys.

I wonder what 2014 Pirellis will be like...

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Kimi has always trailbraked quite heavily - so it's no surprise that the revertion to the 2012-spec Pirellis have hurt him, as the 2012-spec can handle less compound load than the 2013-spec. He needs a strong front to be able to trail brake the way he does
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raymondu999 wrote:Kimi has always trailbraked quite heavily - so it's no surprise that the revertion to the 2012-spec Pirellis have hurt him, as the 2012-spec can handle less compound load than the 2013-spec. He needs a strong front to be able to trail brake the way he does
Interesting, can that be corrected by loosening the rear you reckon? That was apparent in his crash in Korea, when the rear just stepped out.

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The ability for the front to handle compound load shouldn't be mistaken for a stronger front/looser rear, because the rears also have to work in a compound fashion under trail braking - to maintain cornering stability and slow the car down. Loosening the rear would make it harder to trail brake as the rear would be more overwhelmed and would step out more under braking.

Note though that his Korea fp2 crash happened in a flat-out corner, no?
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raymondu999 wrote:The ability for the front to handle compound load shouldn't be mistaken for a stronger front/looser rear, because the rears also have to work in a compound fashion under trail braking - to maintain cornering stability and slow the car down. Loosening the rear would make it harder to trail brake as the rear would be more overwhelmed and would step out more under braking.

Note though that his Korea fp2 crash happened in a flat-out corner, no?
yeah, I did notice that which was quite strange for the rear to stepped out in such corner. first guess was had to be set-up wise, compromising the rear for a pointier front end, which he prefers. So my question is how does the team, and importantly Raikkonen get on top of this? Was this not the same issue that plague him during his Ferrari career? Would have thought he would get on top of this seeing as the Ferrari in 07-09 had the tendency to Understeer.

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“Interestingly, Mark feels small aerodynamic changes in the car earlier and with more detail than Sebastian,” revealed Newey. (GMM)
http://grandprix247.com/2013/10/31/newe ... identical/

Think it has been posted before but not sure. Still interesting information though.
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Yep, posted something similar a few days back.
"I think Sebastian and Mark, while they have unfortunately had their differences, they have been from an engineering point of view very good team-mates because they both contribute in different ways. Mark is very sensitive on the aerodynamics of the car, Sebastian is very sensitive in other areas like tyres and suspension characteristics, so they have complemented each other.”
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Will be interesting to hear what Ricciardo can contribute. Hopefully he´s similar to Mark so that they once again cover all areas of the car pretty good.
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SectorOne wrote:
“Interestingly, Mark feels small aerodynamic changes in the car earlier and with more detail than Sebastian,” revealed Newey. (GMM)
http://grandprix247.com/2013/10/31/newe ... identical/

Think it has been posted before but not sure. Still interesting information though.
It seems that Webber was very important for Red Bull.

I wonder how Marks departure will affect Vettel next year, we could learn that Webbers contribution was vital in his absence.

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SectorOne wrote:Will be interesting to hear what Ricciardo can contribute. Hopefully he´s similar to Mark so that they once again cover all areas of the car pretty good.
Don't know how to rate Ricciardo. He had some good races, but Perez had also some good results at Sauber.
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Jackie Stewarts driving style has often been talked but does any driver still brake in a straightish line and power through the corner or are all modern F1 drivers trail brakers?

Everyone seemed to be trail braking in Abu D today, which I presume is the fastest, but I am wondering what the times would look like if they were to drive a jackie stewart kind of style, especially with the advant of the blown diffusers.

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Ignore, wrong thread.
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