2013 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

[SectorOne]

Caution, caution - not too much criticism on Lewis or else you'll be brandmarked as a hater mate.

Not sure what you were caught in but i think there´s a difference between criticizing something as driver error when it was car failure and simply looking at the facts.

[mikeerfol]

So, any news on whether Raikkonen will start from the pitlane?

[Helios]

Caution, caution - not too much criticism on Lewis or else you'll be brandmarked as a hater mate.

Not sure what you were caught in but i think there´s a difference between criticizing something as driver error when it was car failure and simply looking at the facts.

We still don't know what exactly caused the car to fail - I still think that running wide at the exit of T3 might have been the reason for the failure. That particular kerb seems to be higher than some of the other kerbs and you carry much more speed through T3 aswell.

If you can prove to me that the wishbone failed on its own then I'll give up and admit I was wrong and jumped the gun too early.

[Mika1]

Caution, caution - not too much criticism on Lewis or else you'll be brandmarked as a hater mate.

Not sure what you were caught in but i think there´s a difference between criticizing something as driver error when it was car failure and simply looking at the facts.

Exaclty mate, but some people aren't interested in facts here.

By the way, Mercedes repaired Lewis Hamilton's car, a wishbone failed. (FACT)

[SectorOne]

We still don't know what exactly caused the car to fail

It´s quite irrelevant, the thing broke and it was not the fault of Hamilton.
As Brawn said he drove over the same piece of kerbs he´s been doing for 2 days straight.

He lost control over the car because the wishbone had failed. By your logic Rosberg´s nose falling of was a driver error.
Kimi´s floor damage was a driver error. Anything that ever goes wrong with a car is ultimately driver error.
Quite insane argument.

[Juzh]

Does raikkonen start from the pits or not? Any news on that?

[Helios]

We still don't know what exactly caused the car to fail

It´s quite irrelevant, the thing broke and it was not the fault of Hamilton.
As Brawn said he drove over the same piece of kerbs he´s been doing for 2 days straight.

He lost control over the car because the wishbone had failed. By your logic Rosberg´s nose falling of was a driver error.
Kimi´s floor damage was a driver error. Anything that ever goes wrong with a car is ultimately driver error.
Quite insane argument.

We have to agree to disagree on that then. The rest of your post is exaggeration.

[SectorOne]

The rest of your post is exaggeration.

How so? It´s exactly the same scenario just a different part that broke.

[Helios]

If you really want this discussion to continue let's do so via PM. No need for both of us to use this thread for that.

[atanatizante]

Just to put it to rest. There was no brake testing by any driver and both Hamilton and Vettel made a mistake in T3.

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I bet to differ as DC on BBC commentary noticed, Lewis reacted to Vettel's mistake :



And then he contra react on the steering wheel to take and avoid action :

[SectorOne]

Some people just don´t want to see things for what they are it seems.
I absolutely love the fact that you have completely disregarded the fact that Hamilton lost the rear of his car.

And then he contra react on the steering wheel to take and avoid action :

=D>

[mikeerfol]

I think Kravitz just mentioned Raikkonen will start from the back of the grid, not the pitlane.

[Juzh]

And then he contra react on the steering wheel to take and avoid action :

hahahaha you funny guy

[godlameroso]

How many safety cars?

[Helios]

How many safety cars?

Two. First one for Webber retiring due to a car failure, second one due to Grosjean falling back into bad habits.