2013 Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina

[Miguel]

Am I the only person who saw that incident as Vergne pushing Alonso off track?

All nice and well but you're not allowed to gain an advantage by going off track.
Ending up in front after the maneuver I always considered gaining an advantage. Maybe I'm old fashioned....

But Alonso's front axle had already overtaken Vergne's rear one... and you shouldn't push your competitor off track (like Rosberg, Bahrain 2012)

[Phil]

Am I the only one thinking that Mercedes had a bit of a compromised wing set up for the race? Or it's simply down to bad luck that Hamiltons race got compromised being stuck behind GUT for the entire 2nd stint, but even so it seemed he just never had the straightline speed to pass other cars in the DRS zones easily. Of course it hurts given with this setup, he had the pace for a front row start, but given he lost a few places on the straights in the past two races, one has to wonder if going for qualifying pace over race is the right way. Of course, Rosberg's race worked out flawless, though he didnt have the bad luck to fall behind the first wave of cars starting on the prime tyre.

Sadly, it all kind of went wrong after the start when Webber compromised his first corner... Sure, one can argue he could've/should've went right, but starting on the left side of the grid, that was always going to be tricky or get you volnurable from those coming from behind trying to get the inside of the corner.

I'll be very interested to see if Alonso will get that penalty. I honestly dont get why these things couldnt be decided during the race. Alonso could have always used his brakes to avoid having to leave the track...

[oT v1]

would the FIA just break down with confusion if Alonso overtook Massa off-track? "ahhhhh, which Ferrari to favour!?!"

Outrageous by Seb today, cant wait for someone to chop a dohnut onto his finger celebrations. Shame kimi got the penalty, would add some excitement to push Merc/Ferrari in the WCC.

[stefan_]

Am I the only person who saw that incident as Vergne pushing Alonso off track?

All nice and well but you're not allowed to gain an advantage by going off track.
Ending up in front after the maneuver I always considered gaining an advantage. Maybe I'm old fashioned....

But Alonso's front axle had already overtaken Vergne's rear one... and you shouldn't push your competitor off track (like Rosberg, Bahrain 2012)

So alonso was still behind Vergne and had to be the one giving space, as Vergne had 3/4 of a car in front of Alonso. Was a case of the experienced guy pushing around thinking the other one should give up because he is Alonso.

Other people (Ricciardo, Grosjean) had been penalised in a much shorter time in less clearer cases.

Also, I think it would have been safer for Raikkonen to start from the pit lane, to let the mayhem happen in front of him and then pick them one by one. But the team knows better.

[henra]

But Alonso's front axle had already overtaken Vergne's rear one... and you shouldn't push your competitor off track

So let's see:
When he started the maneuver his front axle was catching up to Vergne's rear axle. When he finished cutting the subsequent opposite curve with all four wheels off the track he ended up in front.
What piece am I missing here?
Wise engineers have gone quite some lengths to install something in the cars that is called brakes.
These can be used at will by the driver e.g. in order to avoid collisions...

[rssh]

Whats wrong with Martin Brundle ? Sutil never gained advantage and didn't deserve a penalty he ran wide so as not to crash into the Williams and came on to the track ahead of Perez (who he couldn't have seen as he will be in the blind spot) who was clearly behind him.

[oT v1]

No further action RE Alonso according to SKY

EDIT: after seeing the replays he was actually a lot further up than i thought and it was more 50-50 in my opinion, the position of the pit lane exit helps his case.

[radosav]

Alonso made fantastic reaction when he came out of pits , very smart and fast decision!

[Jonnycraig]

20 s on race time I think

It's Teflonso. No further action.

[henra]

No further action RE Alonso according to SKY

Amazing.
I don't understand why it is so hard to be consistent with the enforcement of rules.
Every other driver on the grid would probably have been instantly penalised.

[Helios]

No further action RE Alonso according to SKY

Zzzzis is rrrrridiculous.

[Blanchimont]

Look at the screens, Alonso was next to Vergne!

[henra]

Alonso made fantastic reaction when he came out of pits , very smart and fast decision!

That is also one way to look at it
The rules are made only for those idiots who stick to it... (and who don't sit in a red car)

[Jonnycraig]

No further action RE Alonso according to SKY

Amazing.
I don't understand why it is so hard to be consistent with the enforcement of rules.
Every other driver on the grid would probably have been instantly penalised.

Alonso made fantastic reaction when he came out of pits , very smart and fast decision!

That is also one way to look at it
The rules are made only for those idiots who stick to it... (and who don't sit in a red car)

This is the driver who forced Vettel onto the grass at 180mph at Monza and then got the rules changed when Rosberg edged him onto the asphalt runoff at Bahrain.

[radosav]

It only proves that Alonso made fantastic decision very fast, this was something like his starts, class above others!