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Team: Tim Goss (director of engineering), Paddy Lowe (TD), Neil Oatley (DRD), Martin Whitmarsh (TP), Jonathan Neale (MD), Sam Michael (SD)
Drivers: Jenson Button (5), Sergio Pérez (6)
That's a really rare problem in this era of normally rear df limited Formula 1.f1rules wrote:"We were maxed out on the front wing, there isn't anything else we can do to the car to help out with the front end," he added.
Yeah cause with more planes you get upto the maximum point of the Fw, something you cant do with lesser planes without getting a stalling effect.henra wrote:That's a really rare problem in this era of normally rear df limited Formula 1.f1rules wrote:"We were maxed out on the front wing, there isn't anything else we can do to the car to help out with the front end," he added.
Still it's a luxury problem since it can be fixed with more FW elements. Might sacrifice a tiny amount of L/D of the front wing but in the overall scheme of things a solvable problem. Much better than rear df problems.
Would be interesting to know where they found the rear df (read where they threw it away before). There haven't been too dramatic visible changes lately.
The new front wing / pillar set up strikes me as the most likely. It's like something has changed with either the attitude of the car (by altering the moment from the front wing) or there are improvements to the downstream airflow (with more rearward pillars) that has made the rear end work a little better.henra wrote:Would be interesting to know where they found the rear df (read where they threw it away before). There haven't been too dramatic visible changes lately.
Well within the last few races I think a few small things could be switching to 4 vortex generators instead of 3, the re-profiling of the the bulge on the outside of the sidepods. The new beamwing. Last but not least probably the flow structure coming off of the new front wing/pillars and 3 piece turning vanes. Oh also at some point they made a few changes to the diffuser.horse wrote:The new front wing / pillar set up strikes me as the most likely. It's like something has changed with either the attitude of the car (by altering the moment from the front wing) or there are improvements to the downstream airflow (with more rearward pillars) that has made the rear end work a little better.henra wrote:Would be interesting to know where they found the rear df (read where they threw it away before). There haven't been too dramatic visible changes lately.
In comparison it appears to me that the latest iteration of the sidepods which have the lip on the outside (note that there are two types with the lip on the outside, many just didn't notice the second version get introduced a few races ago) greatly helped to push airflow over the exhaust helping it to reach the floor and increase rear downforce.Javert wrote:So summary the difficulties of this season / has been solved or not
EXHAUST
Initial configuration -> low traction, acceptable downforce but obstacle to rear flows and huge horsepower loss
China configuration -> low traction, acceptable downforce, less obstacle to rear flows but huge horsepower loss
Spain/W04style configuration -> low traction, no more relevant horsepower loss but decreased downforce
Hungary configuration -> increased downforce and traction
Solved.
TRACTION Solved
REAR DOWNFORCE
At the end of the game, ok rear downforce
FRONT DOWNFORCE
Never solved
TOP SPEED
Due to the "new" sidepods, not enough work/money spent to solve it, "acceptable" top speed anyway
BRAKING STABILITY
The car always loss time in chicanes this year. Not fully solved
UNDERSTEER
The car was designed to fit Hamilton. Never solved
TIRES TEMPERATURE
I think they still have problems here. Not solved
DRIVEABILITY ISSUES
From others' comments it seems a driveable car now. Solved.
how can you see this? I see anythingastracrazy wrote:its prob the angle, but whats happened to the fw here, endplate looks at a 45deg angle.
right click and zoom
http://www.zaslike.com/files/78h19si3yfv8ppysntgl.jpg