Silly Season 2013/14

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Yes there will be differences between drivers, one of the many subtle things that makes some drivers great while the others are only extremely talented at driving. Anyway, every post agrees the driver can't be held to account for the principle characteristics of the car. So lets call it a day on that.

By the way I deleted a post a couple of weeks ago saying that Alonso should be sacked because Ferrari hadn't won anything while since he arrived at Maranello. When I queried it the poster said that if Alonso wasn't such a prima donna he'd give better feedback to the team which is why they can't beat RB. :wtf:

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I have to admit -i´m amused by Ferrari these days....on one hand they hire Kimi instead of Hulk but seemingly are willing to pay his retainer so he cannot join lotus ...I´d guess Hulk is paid not much less than a million € per annum? this implies they fear he could score strongly in a Lotus stronger eg the pairing of Grosjean hulk would be as strong or stronger than Kimi and Croissant? why not hire him for cheap money instead of taking the Finn who they claimed be be unworkable and living on a different planet not too long ago.

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Sutil stays at FI.

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marcush. wrote:setup blind alleys.
I´d rather think the team is responsible for keeping the car inside the correct setup windows.In todays world of aerodriven setup windows I tend to believe a driver has very very limited influence on the actual setup decisions apart from minor random i like and I´d prefer..
What you imply is -Button would try or be able to make his prefered setups look better as they really are with the effect of actually putting obstacles into the way of the team finding the correct setup .
But this really is in stark contrast to Buttons legendary inability to drive around a cars behaviour not to his liking.
I'm just going by history. At both McLaren and Brawn, he had periods in which he fell woefully behind his teammate, only to copy his teammate's setup and suddenly be back up to speed. Barrichello in particular made a huge fuss over it. Both times, Button said that they had gone up a blind alley with a setup which they were completely convinced was the right way to go. Perhaps it could be coincidence, and both teams were to blame, but really the only common factor in each case was Button.

I thought of this when McLaren said recently that they were going to do some radical setups on Button's car - was that Button heading down another alley, or was it the team trying to see if he had? My bet is the latter.

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Its simle button will effectively be the Bench mark for Magnusson.

That's it. Simple.
But praising his feedback as if its the best.... Lies i understand loosing Sergio but don't try to sell Button as "we kept him because hes so technically gifted" If he was this car that was supposedly according to Button (over the winter) Designed to his taste. It would be a beast of a car.

Perez new kid new car dog of a car horrible first half.

Let's hope Magg is allowed to input in next years car so he doesn't have to adapt like Perez to a Horribly built Mechanically challenged car like Buttons pure Button cars.....

I hope Magg can input more so we dont see another bad season.....
Or what ever Since Hamilton McLaren isn't worth watching.

I thank Perez for making more then a few races enjoyable in a Senna style kind of way. (minus the winning) But still very entertaining.

I.hope teams consider Perez over Maldonado.
Im not saying i want either in or out of the sport. But if you are going to have to get a guy like Pastor... Take Sergio instead.

Hes youger faster then Madlonado. More money. Not to mention Entertaining.
Which in some races the sport needs so we dont end up with a bunch of cars just running in a train in circles like Nasscar....
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Hulk: "If you believe the rumors, Maldonado is at Lotus."
https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/401262488924454913

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I wasn’t expecting to see Perez out of Mclaren, yes his season hasn’t been very good, but he has demonstrated that he is fast. But in his first season, as a Latin in an English team and with a bad car, I dont know, I sincerely think that he deserved another season, a little bit of more time.

I hope Magnussen is fast because if not Mclaren will have the weakest line up in its recent history. Maybe they expect the comeback of Alonso for 2015 and they want to give some experience to the new driver. Maybe..

And now Perez and Maldonado are free with loads of money with them, ah poor Hulk, his chance of getting a seat in Lotus are irremediably disappearing, I hope I am wrong but...

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Hulk: "If you believe the rumors, Maldonado is at Lotus."

https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/401262488924454913
Lotus new clueless co-owner is turning out to be non-existent co-owner (deadline for Quantum deal), his only contribution so far was to talk publicly about Raikkonen and Hulkenberg, people bought it right away because they liked it. Complex team's situation and implications of hiring drivers, who cares. It can still change of course.

Most reactions to hiring Maldo are in the range of some dumbed down "crasher" and similarly to Perez ignoring all good drives. Not a darling of media, someone calling him earlier "primitive" says it all. So who is the sophisticated type, James Bond and who else? Not F1 drivers you like.

His problem is not speed but predictability, I'd be worried about him every race even if it's it's a trade-off vs top results. Problem with not risking is atrophy, if you don't overtake, break 20 meters earlier just to be safe and collect points, than later if you need to risk and rush it it quickly ends badly. You can't switch it on and off, look at Alonso's starts - approach is consistent, costs too. Lotus may not have a choice anyway. Meanwhile Hulkenberg is surprised McLaren weren't at all interested in him :roll: .

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Hulk: "If you believe the rumors, Maldonado is at Lotus."

https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/401262488924454913
That's odd! Perez says he delivered a signed contract to McLaren, and that THEY declined it!

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gilgen wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:Hulk: "If you believe the rumors, Maldonado is at Lotus."

https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/401262488924454913
That's odd! Perez says he delivered a signed contract to McLaren, and that THEY declined it!
What's odd about that? It takes two to tango
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raymondu999 wrote:
gilgen wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:Hulk: "If you believe the rumors, Maldonado is at Lotus."

https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/401262488924454913
That's odd! Perez says he delivered a signed contract to McLaren, and that THEY declined it!
What's odd about that? It takes two to tango

Its odd because the one who delivers the contract is the team, so that means that Perez had a contract given by someone of Mclaren, and then the team has changed its decision about him.

Perhaps I am reaching to a conclusion far from reality but who knows...

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It's not odd. They'd agreed to terms, but that doesn't force anyone to sign. Reading between the lines of Jose Cortez' article linked to below, however, I wonder if Perez waited too late and only signed after Dennis had stepped in and said to cut him loose.

I think Jo Ramirez' comments are worth reading. After all, he's been behind Perez for years, introduced him to McLaren and pushed them to hire him. He's pretty harsh on Checo...
"McLaren needed a better driver than Jenson Button, they didn't need an equal, but Checo wasn't up to the challenge, except on a few occasions," explained Ramírez. "Leaving aside his driver skills, there are other aspects to being a Formula 1 driver. Sergio is an intelligent person and he will know why he lost his seat with McLaren.

"Sergio will probably be uncomfortable reading this, because sometimes the truth is not nice. He had a golden opportunity, one that only comes once in a lifetime. His problem was never integrating with the team. The syndrome of becoming an F1 driver went to his head very fast. He always complained about the British press, but they were the same press that wrote: ''Checo', a good driver, but why is he so arrogant?'

"'Checo' grew a lot as a driver during the last three years in F1, but unfortunately he didn't grow as a person at the same rate. Today the drivers are arriving in F1 at a very young age without knowing how to behave. In most cases they have a manager that coaches them. Sergio tried to do it alone and failed."

"I'm certain that we will see him driving in F1 next year, but I doubt that he will drive for a big team again, and by saying this, I hope with all my soul that 'Checo' makes me eat my words," Ramírez went on to state. "But he will need to focus very much on his profession, wanting to do it with passion and without any pretension of money."
Of course, Ramirez is a McLaren man, but I think he's being honest here. After all, he foreshadowed this back in December...
“I think Sergio has done all the steps in the correct way, been very focused and he’s been good and very tough, but in the last two years he has developed himself much more as a driver than as a person.

“He’s still a child, very young. As a driver he’s full of confidence, when he talks with his engineers he really very much knows what he wants to do on the car and he doesn’t let himself be convinced otherwise.

“Where he has to learn a lot, especially going to a team like McLaren…he doesn’t much like the press, he doesn’t talk too much to the press. The minute he sees a press guy, he runs…so that he’s got to learn. In a team like McLaren he has to be good to the press.”

“You saw how Michael Schumacher applied himself, like Ayrton Senna did; like Fernando Alonso. They are there 10/10ths all the time. If you don’t do it, the next guy is going to do it. To be successful, you’ve got to do it.”
Livio Oriccio is equally harsh, but the translation is a bit difficult...

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... mitment%2F

I think it's interesting that his sources at Sauber say that technically Perez is better than Hulkenberg.

And another critical article from Jose Cortes...

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... e%3Dcolumn

If we're to believe that, then Checo was demanding a two year contract with a pay raise, while Whitmarsh essentially wanted him on probation. And then Dennis stepped in and put an end to it...

Makes one wonder how much more stepping in Dennis will do.

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Basically the engineers or McLaren and Sauber are telling us that Perez is good better even then Hulk and great technically...... But he is arrogantly asking for too much and as a person hes not worth Much. He will be outdone on the Political side by a guy.like Button.

Well sukx for Perez... It sounds like he has alot more to give then alot of other people. But he needs to love the sport off track and let the money come on its own not chase money. If He was humble he would have accepted the probation period and extended his contract for a single year. Now he might not drive at all.... His greed ended his career if i was Dennis i would have done the same. Its not like you didnt try according to all this....
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DiResta to replace Franchitti at Ganassi

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He's another bit of silly for silly season. Heikki Kovalainen impresses in the next two races, helps Lotus secure 3rd in the constructors, they sign him for 2014. Hulkenberg stays at Sauber, Perez and Maldonado go back to destruction derby :lol: