FoxHound wrote:@ tim and huntresa
Appreciate your comments lads.
However, show me a supplier brought into stringent regulations under mandatory obligation.
No pirelli fan btw
Well in my opinion, any supplier who has entered F1 in the last 5 years had the same problem. I'm sure there are literally dozens of them. In actual fact, the testing rules for
Pirelli are absolutely free. They can test what they want, when they want. This is my opinion from the Pirelli 2013 thread:
Tim.Wright wrote:
They can test with almost anything they want. Given their car is not subject any regulations, it would only be a question of money to modify it to reproduce current downforce levels.
If they can't/don't want to do it themselves, there is the excellent Toyota facility in Cologne setup to do exactly that kind of customer work. Other options could be Dallara or Wirth Research. Additionally there are countless other small-medium companies around who could do this work. There are absolutely no technical barriers stopping them from running a car with representative downforce levels.
Whats stopping them is their own lack of investment or motivation or both.
Remember that when the tyre supply went to tender, Michelin's offer was several times more expensive that Pirelli.
In my opinion, now its becoming clear why
In terms of this using the tyres outside their operating conditions...
spinmastermic wrote:flmkane wrote:spinmastermic wrote:
The tyres failed because they were miss-used. Under-pressured and on the wrong sides of the car. All the cars with failures in the British GP did this.
The tyres were used by teams in the manner that would allow them to complete the race distance in the shortest time possible, in other words they were used exactly as F1 racing tyres are expected to be used. If the tyres blew up, it's because the tyres are not capable of performing to the requirements of the teams. Which means that they did not meet the requirements of F1 racing, hence they were bad tyres.
They simply did not meet the design criteria, or the design criteria were ill-defined. Or both.
Well they did when the were used the way they were designed. The teams took a risk and they paid the price. Get off Pirellis back, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Their tyres have an unacceptably small operating range to the point where its questionable whether they were ever acceptable to run on F1 cars. And for the reasons I mentioned above, they are not caught between a rock and a hard place. They are literally the only body who can test what they want, when they want. This is why all Pauls complaining about testing is really just hot air...
