Silly Season 2013/14

[kooleracer]

just read Guido vanderGarde has a chance on the second ForceIndia seat, even though i think it's unlikely he'll end up there.
Perez makes the most sense. But who knows, still enough spots to be filled, and enough contracts to be breached

I think there is more chance that Giedo will end up at Force India and Pérez back to Sauber. Because Mol has shares in FI and he is Dutch. Telmex sponsors Sauber and the Russian money seems not to come in. So two Mexicans is really likely. Although Sutil thinks he has a big chance. Maybe Sutil and Pérez at Sauber and Gutiérrez to Catherham if can believe the story about him visiting their factory. I personally hope Pérez Hulkenberg FI and Sauber Gutiérrez and Giedo. Because I'm not a fan of Sutil or his pedantic twin Di Resta

[SectorOne]

da Costa gets a reserve driver role at Red Bull. At least it´s something.

Why do you think Félix deserves a seat in F1? Da Costa had one good half year, because his main competitors were embroiled in a title fight and he wasn't. This year the pressure was on and he was beaten by rookie Vandoorne and McLaren protégé Magnusson.

Did you watch the season yourself or did you just read the results at the end of the year?

[SectorOne]

Let´s look at the 2012 F3.5 season.

Total amount of races was 18, 9 events.

Frijn´s did all of them, Magnussen did all of them, Da Costa did 12 races. So 66%.
He beat Magnussen who came 8th. Da Costa came 4th despite missing 6 races.

"Because his main competitors were embroiled in a title fight and he wasn't."

That´s an excuse, Frijn´s had done just three events before da Costa arrived.
They had not even reached half way in the championship.

Frijn´s grabbed 128 points during the period of when da Costa arrived.
DC grabbed 166 points during that period.

Frijn´s had three wins all season. Da Costa 4 despite missing 33% of the championship.
(he won more races then anyone else in the championship)

23 points separated them and that´s missing a theoretical 125 points.

So why did it go so well? Because everything went smooth, they never had to break down the whole car to try and understand what the problem was, he never had to race with old engines etc.
It was a disaster year for Da Costa in 2013.

Vandoorne and Magnussen in 2013 enjoyed the same stability that da Costa enjoyed in 2012.

[kooleracer]

Let´s look at the 2012 F3.5 season.

Total amount of races was 18, 9 events.

Frijn´s did all of them, Magnussen did all of them, Da Costa did 12 races. So 66%.
He beat Magnussen who came 8th. Da Costa came 4th despite missing 6 races.

"Because his main competitors were embroiled in a title fight and he wasn't."

That´s an excuse, Frijn´s had done just three events before da Costa arrived.
They had not even reached half way in the championship.

Frijn´s grabbed 128 points during the period of when da Costa arrived.
DC grabbed 166 points during that period.

Frijn´s had three wins all season. Da Costa 4 despite missing 33% of the championship.
(he won more races then anyone else in the championship)

23 points separated them and that´s missing a theoretical 125 points.

So why did it go so well? Because everything went smooth, they never had to break down the whole car to try and understand what the problem was, he never had to race with old engines etc.
It was a disaster year for Da Costa in 2013.

Vandoorne and Magnussen in 2013 enjoyed the same stability that da Costa enjoyed in 2012.

I watched 2012 and 2013 as much as possible and when Eurosport decided to broadcast it or not. You can bring every excuse up that you want. The facts are Da Costa didn't win a championship Red Bull, Marko and me think he should have won. He raced 2.5 year and GP3 and also never won the championship. That last half season of 2012 was his best stint ever in his career. Da Costa doesn't deserve anything form my point of view he hasn't earned anything to deserve or get something. A good half seasons doesn't mean he his a good driver. Da Costa is overrated, he isn't a bad driver but people give him more credits than he deserves. In 2012 he had zero pole positions in 2013 1 pole position for a big talent thats a bit poor isn't it. Pole positions are the ultimate indications of someone pure speed and he hasn't showed that he got that. Frijns showed in his rookie year he had that pure pace with 4 pole positions.

conclusion: Da Costa didn't get the STR seat, from my pov totally agree with Marko's choice to go with Daniil. You have to win championships to be called a big talent like Hamilton,Rosberg and Hulkenberg did. You can't be called talent if you only have one great half of a full season. Da Costa has a lot to prove in 2014, wherever he will be racing. If Da Costa, Marciello, Vandoorne and Frijns all would race in GP2 next year that would certainly be a great pool of talent going head to head.

edit: Da Costa will be racing for BMW in DTM next season.

[SectorOne]

I watched 2012 and 2013 as much as possible and when Eurosport decided to broadcast it or not. You can bring every excuse up that you want. The facts are Da Costa didn't win a championship Red Bull, Marko and me think he should have won.

I´m sure he also thought he should win it. Like Magnussen thinking he should win in 2012.
Like Bianchi thinking he should win in 2012. Just because you think something should happen doesn´t mean it will happen.

Well if you watched the 2013 season naturally you would have realized things were not that straight forward as you make it out to be. The team was a disaster.

If Da Costa is overrated and he did so well in 2012, either Frijns and the rest are even more overrated or DC´s 13 year just did not flow as good as it did for others.
Same thing for Magnussen, average 2012, dominant 2013. (new team should be said)

A good half seasons doesn't mean he his a good driver.

Define a good season.

In 2012 he had zero pole positions in 2013 1 pole position for a big talent thats a bit poor isn't it.

Not really,
If you can´t convert your poles into wins it´s irrelevant where you started the day before.

Pole positions are the ultimate indications of someone pure speed and he hasn't showed that he got that.

IF the car is there for you.
Hamilton took one pole in his first F3 season. He then moved to a better team and took 13 of them the year after.

Da Costa didn't get the STR seat, from my pov totally agree with Marko's choice to go with Daniil. You have to win championships to be called a big talent like Hamilton,Rosberg and Hulkenberg did.

Kvyat has won just one more championship then Da Costa. And it´s not even a feeder series.
How Kvyat would have done in GP2 or F3.5 we will never know.

You can't be called talent if you only have one great half of a full season.

Again, define great season.

Marciello, Vandoorne and Frijns all would race in GP2 next year that would certainly be a great pool of talent going head to head.

And when one of them experiences a bad season because of the car he´s been given i assume you will instantly put him on the chopping block.
I actually hope they all have horrendous seasons because your logic would instantly assume they are all overrated.

edit: Da Costa will be racing for BMW in DTM next season.

Interesting how this overrated driver managed to get a seat at BMW.

"Antonio Felix da Costa really convinced us what a talented driver he is during his tests in the BMW M3 DTM,

[Bredd]

Ive heard that FI will announce their last driver tomorrow.

[Holm86]

Ive heard that FI will announce their last driver tomorrow.

Perez i bet.

[Jonnycraig]

Di Resta seems pretty resigned to DTM:

Paul di Resta's chances of remaining in Formula One next year are slim after he admitted Sauber is his only realistic option for 2014.

Di Resta's future has been in doubt since a bad run of form midway through the season and took another hit when his Force India team announced Nico Hulkenberg would be one of its drivers next year. Di Resta said he is still talking with Force India, but with Sergio Perez also in advanced negotiations his chances are slim.

"[Force India] are speaking to me every two or three days," Di Resta told Press Association Sport. "They may be interested. They may not. I believe they are in talks with Sergio Perez. It's looking likely that I will not be driving."

Sauber is the only other midfield team yet to announce its 2014 line-up, although Adrian Sutil, Esteban Gutierrez and Russian teenager Sergey Sirotkin are all in the running. Di Resta said his management had made contact but that talks were not very advanced.

"The only team that really has any possibility is Sauber," he said. "There has been nothing other than a chat with my manager."

Before joining Force India in Formula One, di Resta was DTM champion in Germany and said he is in talks with his old Mercedes team about returning to the touring car series next season.
http://www.espn.co.uk/forceindia/motors ... 39173.html

[Racer X]

Poor Paul.

Perez seems to be headed to Force India.

[Cold Fussion]

Why poor Paul? He's had only one season where he's beaten his team mate, and it was a season where his team mate didn't drive the year previous. His driven into the wall completely unaided god knows how many times this season and over the course of three years, and to top it off, he has some weird entitlement complex and continuously publicly denounces his team.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Perez at Force India officially - http://www.f1technical.net/news/19024

[JimClarkFan]

Kind of feel bad for Paul, his standing in the championship didn't really reflect his driving this year. Still he had 3 years to make his mark, I feel that is a fair crack of the whip.

[kooleracer]

Force India most improved driver line-up for 2014. Perez and the Hulk with a reasonably good car those have shown that they can compete. Hulkenberg is a really good reference point for Perez. 5 only 5 seats available, 2 at Sauber, 2 at Caterham and 1 at Marussia. Sutil heading to Sauber, Guiterez, Van der Garde or Sorotkin as 2nd driver. Catherham, Giedo 1st (Erissson, Pic, Nasr, Rossi,Chilton, Kovalainen, Guiterez), Marussia Bianchi ( Chilton, Sorotkin, Petrov).

Finaly 2 guys with personalities for Force India. I can't stand the prima donna attitude of both Sutil and Di Resta, always complaining about the team. Good for the Force India to get rid of those two whiners, i am definitely rooting for FI next year . Thumbs off for VJ and the board to choose for talent instead of money, Perez (out performing former WDC Button 2nd part of the season) and Hulk are the most talented drivers on grid FI could get kudus too them.

Perez and Hulk are good qualifiers and both have strong and aggressive racecraft. Inter team battle to follow next year: Ferrari and Force India. I'm already liking to 2014 season and it hasn't even started yet, all the ingredients for a classic season.

[astracrazy]

Paul had it coming, he was always criticising the team when he made just as many mistakes himself. I always thought he walked into the sport with his dtm success and thought that gave him something in f1 and was quiet arrogant as a result - i don't think it was there that he had to work his way up i always got the impression he expected to be at the top

[Sebp]

Maybe he beat his cousin on a kart track once or twice.