Double Points @ Final Race

[Jonnycraig]

It's silly, a knee jerk reaction to RB's domination meaning the last few races have no impact on the WCC or WDC tables. They want to recreate 2007, 8, 9, 10 - not just at the top but have a few more battles lower down.

IMHO If they want to keep things alive to the end of the season the then the old system of only counting the best races would be a good way of doing it. Lets say the best 12 results?

Alternately we could accept one team and driver are just better than the others..

The ultimate result is that teams are going to end up sacrificing one of the $$$ events in Russia or America to save a new engine and gearbox for Abu Dhabi. If you are outside the points at either race, why would you bother finishing when a DNF gives you a new gearbox.

[Töm87]

Ok that's it for me with Formula One. Have been a die heart fan since my 6th birthday. The development of the last decade has robbed a lot of my passion, too. No this is the final nail in the coffin. I can't watch this gimmick --- anymore. I started following Formula One when it was real racing, a sport for sportfans. Today, well, Don't even get me started. Can't take this --- seriously anymore.
Thank you and goodbye for all the memories Formula1.! Maybe some day real Formula One will return.

[aleks_ader]

Ok that's it for me with Formula One. Have been a die heart fan since my 6th birthday. The development of the last decade has robbed a lot of my passion, too. No this is the final nail in the coffin. I can't watch this gimmick --- anymore. I started following Formula One when it was real racing, a sport for sportfans. Today, well, Don't even get me started. Can't take this --- seriously anymore.
Thank you and goodbye for all the memories Formula1.! Maybe some day real Formula One will return.

I aggree. Im huge tehnical stuff fan and that only keep me up... Now that it is just to much! i think total orientation to WEC make sense.

This thread appears to be filled with lots of emotions - understandably so. However, I will attempt to look at this from a slightly different angle even though I struggle at the moment to approve of this rule change.

For the audience, and therefore business, it is desirable to determine the champion as late as possible - preferrably in the last race. Doubling the points of the last race would certainly leave the outcome of the championship open for a bit longer, even if the season is being dominated by one driver. It is artificial, but it will keep the audience excited for longer whilst the money keeps flowing.

In addition to the extended suspense, one might speculate that higher fees could be demanded from the hosting country and maybe even from the TV companies for their licenses to air the last race. Milk the cow as much as you can.

Now if you milk the cow as much is possible it can get really bad and even due some-sort exhaustion kill it (really it happens on farms regularly). Now we could that common sense knowledge simply applied it on F1 world; "Congratulation your cow is officially dead. =D> " (this was no personal attack just throw out my feelings in that situation)

[ackzsel]

I've been watching F1 from 1999 and I can count the number of GPs I missed on one hand, but I'm affraid '14 will increase this number by quite a bit. The last few years Formula 1 has been entering a state in which I'm simply not happy to watch it anymore. DRS and the constant "manage your tires" radio chatter are examples of things that bug me every lap.

This new double point rule sounds like a technical K.O. to me. Instead of making the last race more significant they just make the other races less significant. "With this win driver X really increased his chances of clinching the title..." changes to "O well, It all depends on the final race because that's where the points are divided..." (no actual quotes, just brain farts).

I'm still very curious about the cars next year, but I'm affraid I'm out after the first few races when this novelty wears out.

[bauc]

I have been watching F1 since 1997, and I must quote a older post written here....

I love f1 for what it was, not what it is......this is the end....of F1 as we know it.....from now on this is just a new type of X-Factor show.....

In Loving memory
Formula 1
1950-2013

[SiLo]

Or just don't change it? The problem I see is that they put more emphasis on winning the race, so when one person does dominate they get a pretty big lead quite quickly. With the old 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points system, it made for tighter championships but maybe more boring races because people didn't need to win so much. But I haven't actually seen the change in points change whether people are happy to accept 2nd or 3rd place over going for the win, so maybe that should go back to the way it was.

[Gerhard Berger]

I agree with all the other comments - i don't like this idea. It's too gimmicky. It's brought in with the intention of making the title fight last a bit longer, and this might work in years in 2009 or 2005, but it can also kill a championship battle (think of 2008). It can work both ways.

I see it helping Red Bull the most since they are the strongest when it comes to in season development. Also worth considering that next year drivers have 5 engines to use across the 19 races and with some reliablity problems expected early on, we may see title contenders having to take penalties at the last race.

[kooleracer]

They should have give double points to historic race venues like, Monza, Monaco, Spa and Silverstone that would have made more sense. Because they are part of F1 from the start.

[autogyro]

Another example of the FIA illusion building system.
If you want to watch proper technical innovation watch the next few years of FE.
F1 has shot itself in the foot.
Bernie will be out soon you can bet on that.

[autogyro]

THE problem is that the regulations have emaciated F1 to such a huge degree, there is now NO real technical development direction available to the teams to gain anything.
All the teams do now is spend millions looking for ways to get around the regulations to achieve small gains and usually only in aero.
F1 is not the peak of technical vehicle development and has not been for many years.

The drivers in F1 are very good drivers but for years IMO there have been ten drivers in other formula who were potentially better but never in with a chance for an F1 drive.
F1 has been turned into a global media and industry benefit and talent alone will never guarantee a drive.
A bit like X factor with bells on.

[turbof1]

I'm speechless... surely this has to be Abu Dhabi buying the rules?

The FIA isn't a well functioning government anymore. F1 turns into a warzone for political power and money.

Even autosport, ussually very neutral into sensible matter, openly speaks of a worrying move:

Overall, this is a worrying move and could pave the way for other 'event' races being given extra points status either for sporting, or commercial reasons. It could also lead to the 'wrong' driver winning a title purely because of external circumstances.

[Sawtooth-spike]

So far, I have not seen 1 comment on this forum, On Twitter or anywhere else that supports this idea.

This sounds very much like when we had the medal system in 2010, Which everybody Panned, then we ended up with the new points system instead. I think this is again a case of them say they are going to do something stupid, then doing something else that sounds not so bad because its better than what they said they are going to do, but in now way better than what they currently do.

If that makes any sense?

[Sebp]

So far, I have not seen 1 comment on this forum, On Twitter or anywhere else that supports this idea.

This sounds very much like when we had the medal system in 2010, Which everybody Panned, then we ended up with the new points system instead. I think this is again a case of them say they are going to do something stupid, then doing something else that sounds not so bad because its better than what they said they are going to do, but in now way better than what they currently do.

If that makes any sense?

I really hope you're right!

[dragosmp]

I was thinking about the reliability aspect of this new rule. Usually at the last few races the engines being used are getting close to the end of life. Next year the reliability is a big issue for the teams, so I'm curious how they're going to manage the parts. You don't want tired engines or partly demagnetized rotors at the race that provides double the points.

Maybe we'll see an unusual amount of DNFs at Interlagos.

More likely most teams will start from the pits with the 6th power unit

[langwadt]

I was thinking about the reliability aspect of this new rule. Usually at the last few races the engines being used are getting close to the end of life. Next year the reliability is a big issue for the teams, so I'm curious how they're going to manage the parts. You don't want tired engines or partly demagnetized rotors at the race that provides double the points.

Maybe we'll see an unusual amount of DNFs at Interlagos.

More likely most teams will start from the pits with the 6th power unit

and then DNF if the lost points are worth a new gearbox.

double point in the last race also makes the rich teams have an even bigger advantage, keeping up with the development
race i.e. spending lots of money doing what everyone else is is better that getting it right from the start of the season