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[xpensive]

Manchild would be the perfect man to make us some livery. Hope he reads this.

So basically, where do we start in setting up a team? First we need candidates for the key positions. Given that xpensive will basically be TD, who else does he want around him? Any candidates to be chief designer?

Then we need a budget. Can anybody make an estimation of the amount of money we need? How much for which department?
I would also suggest trying to find an existing wind tunnel we could use. Which are the ones that are available for customers to be used? However, with Ferrari back home, Toyota at Cologne may have some spare capacity! And that's a more than decent tunnel.

Budget is not xactly my area of xpertise, other than I'm cheap as an IKEA-mogul or worse, but I would like to see TC, DaveW and JT there. WB would actually come in handy, believe it or not, as FIA interface on technical rules and regulation issues.

I should cherish our closed-door elaborations on those.

marcush is a given as director of race engineering.

Toyota facilities sounds like a plan,though I doubt if Hyundai would approve without an official xcuse for whatever?

[dren]

Could talk to Wirth and go 100% CFD...

Budget breakdown of a top team:

car - $15mil
design - $110mil
engine - $130mil
testing - $15mil
drivers - $47mil
entry fee - $3.3mil
hospitality - $13mil
operating - $137mil

Total - roughly $470mil

Budget breakdown of F1T:

car - $15mil
design - ???
engine - $15mil (we will purchase or maybe score freebies from Hyundai)
testing - $15mil
drivers - Free
entry fee - $0.5mil
hospitality - Do we need this? Maybe score a sponsorship from a drink company and they can foot the bill.
operating - I'd say we could scale this down considerably, $30mil

So basically we are in at least $60.5mil. Then development costs need to be covered. We could probably scrape by with under $100mil.

[xpensive]

Nick Wirth would not get anywhere near my car, sorry marcush.

All the way CFD is an interesting approach however, do we have a member with know-how in that area?

Composites is not a big bother, as I have good relations with BAE/Saab in that department, autoclave and all.

[Blanchimont]

There's another approach how to evaluate if a certain aero design is good or bad: the armchair experts method!

Just design different versions of a bodywork and then open a poll on F1T to decide which one's the best.

[Steven]

Hmm interesting. "Social design" is born
I guess after deciding the basic concepts, we'd still have to optimise the whole thing

Anyway, we should also hire Reca to strengthen our aerodynamics department.

[marcush.]

I´d be interested to run the component testing department ...

[timbo]

Surely ringo runs aero department? We can cut the xpenses on windtunnel!

[Daliracing]

what about the coulours of the car?

[CBeck113]

F1T needs Moichendizing!
http://cli.ps/hRHT

Fixed that bad link...

[Kiril Varbanov]

I'm certainly interested Two positions:

- Aero department - deputy. 11 years of aero researches, talks, books, studies. Also, I already know some of the 'rivals'
Wind tunnel use? MIRA facility at UK. Full scale aero wind tunnel, large professionals. The fallback option is Cologne, where lots of aero organizations are based, for example German Aerospace Center (DLR).

- IT manager - about 20 years of computing and IT experience. Today having the right machinery and software tools is of extreme importance, though rarely mentioned. Example is Red Bull with their Product Life Cycle Management system from Siemens - an enormous help at the design department where more than 1000 changes are done per week.

- Optional: reserve driver, but only if the two real drivers are dead. I can offer about 90 kg of downforce, lots of kilometers on the road and some car testing experience.

[sectionate]

The only thing I can bring to the table is the ability to reach the top shelf anywhere

Oh, and a mechanical engineering degree, which may or may not help

[CBeck113]

Oh right - I forgot my CV...

I've been doing failure analysis and customer relations (aka Technical Marketing & Complaint Management) for the past 14 years, so I'd take anything in this area.

[xpensive]

"Complaint Management", you figure we're going to need that...?

[Steven]

Complaint management will only be needed if you do a decent enough job to build a competitive car